Fighting a ticked

Forgot to tell you about this earlier, in PA (or at least the township I live in) the police have to notify the owner of the property in advance. They also have to publish the information about where the speed traps will be located in the local paper the day before. So yes, they can be on private property, but they have to tell the owner (my guess is there has to be some type of formal document).

This is a buisness. They clearly want their drive clear because they have large trucks coming in and out all day. They have an amazing amount of signs stating to stay out. But who is going to tell a cop that....they might need them some day

I got stopped in a random checkpoint for expired license, expired registration, expired inspection, and expired insurance. Simply renewed all 4, went to the DA on the appointed day, and he excused everything. He said he just wanted me “in compliance.”

If this is really your big point of contention, you should ask the owner of the property if he was aware and/or gave consent. You should then research local law on the topic. If you have a case, you should at least file a formal complaint on behalf of the owner against the offending police officer. The job of the police is to serve and protect. They are not above the law and sometimes they need to be reminded of it (now if the cop had permission and nailed you speeding, that is a different story).

You know, I'm amazed how a bunch of guys who spend hours a day on the side of the road are so morbidlly opposed to speeding tickets. I'm glad that people get pulled over, most of the time. Obviously, the small town cop who sits at the egde of town where the speed limit drops isn't what I'm talking about. It's the assholes that do 45 in a 30 (that's a residential street!) that bother me, all the more since that's the situation where someone comes up on a curve to quickly, and then you'd better hope you're not in the shoulder when he does.

The same goes for stop signs. I read threads bitching about how people can't drive, how drivers just blow through stop signs regardless if there's someone in the crosswalk (you know, someone out for a run).

And then you come on here and talk about how unjust it is that you have to pay, and you all stratigize like you've got some kind of case in front of the Supreme Court. Are you the same guys who tell fat people, or pretty much anyone who complains about their condition, to take responcibility in their lives? Why don't you just man up, pay the ticket, stop driving like an asshole and posing a threat to anyone walking or running near you.

An officer told me he could take my license away for a "reckless driving" charge while I was stopped at a red light. Some guys in the car were jokingly shaking the car side to side for a few seconds and my radio was on not very high (no stereo laws here). The cop could tell how stupid his claim was and gave me a warning slip- which ended up out the window.

Thats funny. Filing a complaint to the police, about who? the police?!? and for what? "I just want to report that officer was, you know, like doing his job or something." Yeah, that should go far, not to mention display the true moronic potential of mankind. Like most people that love to bitch about the cops, if they had a problem with the cop being parked on their property I'm sure they would, like you, have whined about it. Then again, they were probably brighter than you which wouldn't be diffucult to imagine.

Dijya git one for littering?

No. I've never been pulled over for breaking the law, just for petty things.

Have a couple kids and see how your take on cars wizzing down your street changes.

I am not lying at all! My attorney is a friend of a friend. I know probably not believable, but it is true. It was so easy, I just put the $100 check in the mail to my attorney for getting my deferal, the cool thing is, my ticket would have been $133. Plus I have no court costs! It's awesome. Get a lawyer, and you will win 9 times out of 10!

Hooked on Phonics wrote:

LIAR. I am sure that you just got a call from your lawyer on Saturday afternoon/evening. That makes a lot of sense. If you would of said "my lawyer called me yesterday....." or something to that effect, you may have been believable. You said " Well just goat a call...". That my friend was bull shit.

Last year I got a $180 ticket for failure to yield to a school bus, which I felt was wrong.(I turned right, away from the bus and at no point went around it in any direction.) I had a court date set to fight it but those fat cats at city hall didn't file the paperwork in time and it was dropped becasue of that. Ha! gotta love government inefficiency.

so yeah fight it and you may get off on some technicality and not even have to appear in court.

ticked? wrote:

Then again, they were probably brighter than you which wouldn't be diffucult to imagine.

Probably should not insult someone's intelligence with a spelling mistake.

Aren't people named Timmy the chubby, nerdy and sometimes slightly retarded types that get beat up on the playground?

Timmy. Just the sound of it makes me smirk. Don't you belong at Johnbingham.com?? Stop wasting your time here and getting training for that sub 50 10k, and while your at it get a real name, wedgie boy. Click and be gone:

http://www.johnbingham.com

Did not know my name, weight, running times, or athleticism had anything to do with this thread. Glad to have helped amuse you today, though.

It isn't my main point. Just one of many. The ticket was filled out wrong in two places, and it was also impossible to travel as fast as he had me clocked at. Traffic wouldn't allow it. I just need to be prepared.

I read somewhere that it is important that the police puts your SS# in the ticket, more important than the name. Is this true? Can they pull up that information? The only reason I ask is because mine is blank.

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So I'm a bit late to the party but I thought I'd address the original post. And then add a few comments on other posts I've read.

First, cops have every right to sit on private property to do their jobs. In the event an owner asks them to leave, they would. This has NEVER happened to me. From 'cops' post, it doesn't sound like it's ever happened to him either. And it's been noted before but people normally LIKE cops to sit on their property.

Second, the number one complaint at every police agency in the country is speeding. You would like to believe that people care more about other crimes but it is not true. People call and complain about speeding more than anything else. Whenever I show up at a community meeting, the conversation eventually turns to people driving too fast; either in the neighborhood or along certain streets. As such, Depts across the nation get requests for speed enforcement more than anything else.

Third, every jurisdiction is different so you really have to do some research on your citation. Mispelled words, typos, etc. don't get you off from the responsibility to drive safely. The citation is really just a document that gets you in front of a judge to face an alleagation of a violation. It's the testimony that counts. That is why you get off if the cop doesn't show up.....no one is there to testify that you were speeding. And you certainly don't go in and say, 'yes, I was going way to fast on that day.' So if there is a typo, the cop will testify to the correct details on the court date and it gets on the record.

Fourth, I've never met a cop that had a 'quota.' I would guess that some Depts DO have quotas but I have not talked with any. I work in a fairly large Dept.

Fifth, don't argue with the cop. Once he starts writing, it's basically over. Arguing will NOT change the facts of the case and the only person who will listen is the hearing officer/judge, etc.

Sixth, all the radar questions......yes, it's true. Per state law, radar guns have to be calibrated on certain intervals. In our case, once every 60 days. If you got a citation and choose to fight it, you can ask for the calibration records. Depends on the judge if this contributes to your case. In our Dept, when the court case is about two weeks away, our records Dept sends us a copy of the citation along with calibration records for the radar gun that was used (we put the serial # on the citation). Sometimes we use these in court and sometimes it's unecessary. Either way, it's good to know what occurs in your area prior to the court date (I know someone suggested this and it's a good idea).

Seventh, hoping the cop won't show up. Our attendance rate is around 85%. We get in trouble if we don't show up for court and cen get disciplined for it. However, it's not unusual for something to come up or for a cop to forget. We are normal people.

Lastly, as I have said on many occasions on these boards:

It's nice to see someone taking responsibility for their actions.