Help! 2 Mile on Saturday! Approx time?!

ElGuerroujFan wrote: I train really hard, and try to form my racing strategy like Pre's

Don't forget all the other important aspects of his training.

Sorry bro, I thought this site would help, but maybe not?

Actually, that was pretty mean, sorry guys, I mean that I really need help with this subject, and all the "race time predictors" don't really help that much, since y'all are such good athletes with more experience, I thought I would ask for some advice, but yeah sorry about all the other threads.

It's not that, just bump the thread instead of just creating the same exact thread

Ohhh, I didn't know I could do that!

bump lol!!!!

To be fair to BadThreadPointer, it is not etiquette on this forum to repost threads, it’s best to bump them, especially using anonymous posts that aren’t indicative of being the OP.

To get to your post, I can’t really tell what shape you are in because you didn’t tell me much. You just said: I do this workout, and have these general paces, and didn’t give us the paces on the workout because it’s hard to tell. I mean, for all I know you are in 10:30 shape (unlikely) or you are still in 12:30 shape (also unlikely), but you could have completed pretty much the same summer training you outlined in either shape. Likely you are somewhere in the middle, maybe closer to 11 than 12, but I need more about your efforts closer to your max to tell.

Side note: giving people your threshold paces is relatively unhelpful because it is so easy to overrun them and still tell yourself that it’s “tempo pace.” I find that it’s something personal and can only be used in your own framework of your fitness, as only you know how hard you were truly working during your tempo.

Yeah guys, Im sorry, but to what you said, I ran the 18:26 3 mile this last Saturday, it was a choice to be either a TT or a threshold pace workout, so I went for it, to PR 1:37!, but that is my most recent max pace.

Your threshold workout is something an 11:00 3200 guy might run, and your 12x800 pace is doable for a 12:00 3200 guy. So I'll split the difference and say you can run 11:30.

ElGuerroujFan wrote:

Also, I do the race pace workouts at 6:00 or faster.

Then your 2 mile will be 12:00 or faster.

Was it a 3 mile or a 5k? Now that you say it was a 3 mile that makes a lot more sense in relation to your other times.

I would say don't worry about what anybody predicts your time to be. Set a aggressive goal, go out hard, and see what happens. Try to stick with someone and focus on not falling off of them. Once you have a race under your belt you can worry about pacing better and splitting more evenly later.

I'd guess between 11:10 and 11:35, depending on whether that 18:26 was 3 miles or 5k.

Basically what I'm hearing is that I shouldn't create more than one thread, and that an 11:30 would be a good time to shoot for? Sounds about right to me! Here is the info in case you guys are interested (BTW, I am a 13 yr old sophomore, so I am kind of new to these "threads"):

http://www.finishedresults.com/files/XC_2019/Invitationals/Fast-Back-Shootout/fastbackmeetinfo.pdf

Looking at the 2017 and 2018 results, 11:30 is possible, but optimistic. An 11:45 would be excellent. In 2017 it was worth top 10% and in 2018 it was top 20% -- and most of the guys who ran faster than 12:00 were running low 18:xx or better in the following week or two.

I agree with the poster above who said not to worry too much about the time. Go out a bit faster than you ran the 3-mile, and try to run the second lap faster than the first.

Alright, thanks webby, and everyone for the help! 11-45-40. Don't go out too fast, I will tell you guys the results over the weekend!

Good luck, EGF!

Good Luck! Run like El Guerrouj! Wait, is it seperated by grade?

Yes, I am running with the sophomore's! This is going to be so awsome! Top 60 will medal!

Thanks webby!