Recently, Jakob hasn't been making huge jumps in his times like has in past years. He's only improved a second or so in the past year in the 1500/mile and keeps getting about the same times in races. I think he's still going to get faster, but he could potentially peak at 19/20 like Jim Ryun did.
Of course and his peak will be good enough to win anything.
As long as he keeps training in Norway, yes. Time to move to North Africa and learn the secrets of EPO to truly compete with the big boys
buzzd wrote:
As long as he keeps training in Norway, yes. Time to move to North Africa and become a citizen of a country that doesn’t drug test to truly compete with the big boys
Corrected for you.
Jakob will have career bests of 3:28, 7:29, and 12:52. He will continue to improve for another year or two.
It seems it takes 10-12 years of consistent high level training before peaking. For instance Rupp started around age 14-16 and at age 26-28 he peaked. Jakob started at age 8 so around age 18-20 he is peaking. I don’t see him getting much faster in the next two years and then not any faster after that. Hope he does though.
You seem like a idiot. As you become more experience, your gains become smaller.
Idiot. wrote:
You seem like a idiot. As you become more experience, your gains become smaller.
Ya, you peak...
His brothers have both continued to improve well into their 20s. Is there reason to believe Jakob would be different?
I think he will still get a bit faster in the 1500. 3:27 or 3:28. I don't think he's the next Lagat, El G, or Morcelli, but he's going to be damn good. He has a lot of room to improve in the 5000. I think he could be a killer 5000 runner and someday I'd love to see him in some longer stuff.
I think he has 7:25-28, 12:45-50 potential.
Idiot. wrote:
You seem like a idiot. As you become more experience, your gains become smaller.
At least take the time to check your work before calling others idiots.
Idiot. wrote:
You seem like a idiot. As you become more experience, your gains become smaller.
+1
Didn't he recently just smash his 5000m pb?
He ran 3:30 in Lausanne and would likely have ran 3:29 low or better in Monaco if Tim hadn't been playing mind games.
He's still probably at least two seconds faster over 1500 this year than he was at the same stage last year (and peaking for Doha). His progression might 'slow' further (and likely will) and he could still run 3:27 in Monaco next year and be WR holder by 21.
People here have been saying he has reached his peak since he was 14.
Coevett wrote:
Idiot. wrote:
You seem like a idiot. As you become more experience, your gains become smaller.
+1
Didn't he recently just smash his 5000m pb?
He ran 3:30 in Lausanne and would likely have ran 3:29 low or better in Monaco if Tim hadn't been playing mind games.
He's still probably at least two seconds faster over 1500 this year than he was at the same stage last year (and peaking for Doha). His progression might 'slow' further (and likely will) and he could still run 3:27 in Monaco next year and be WR holder by 21.
People here have been saying he has reached his peak since he was 14.
Are you really still whining about this you dumb clown? You made a complete fool of yourself right after this race when you claimed that Tim intentionally screwed Jakob over because he didn't want a white guy to break 3:30. This is AFTER Tim had already invited the Ingebrigtsens to train with him in Kenya once the season is over.
Why don't you go post in the doping thread you started and try to support your moronic opinion that all Kenyans cheat.
clownvett wrote:
Coevett wrote:
+1
Didn't he recently just smash his 5000m pb?
He ran 3:30 in Lausanne and would likely have ran 3:29 low or better in Monaco if Tim hadn't been playing mind games.
He's still probably at least two seconds faster over 1500 this year than he was at the same stage last year (and peaking for Doha). His progression might 'slow' further (and likely will) and he could still run 3:27 in Monaco next year and be WR holder by 21.
People here have been saying he has reached his peak since he was 14.
Are you really still whining about this you dumb clown? You made a complete fool of yourself right after this race when you claimed that Tim intentionally screwed Jakob over because he didn't want a white guy to break 3:30. This is AFTER Tim had already invited the Ingebrigtsens to train with him in Kenya once the season is over.
Why don't you go post in the doping thread you started and try to support your moronic opinion that all Kenyans cheat.
Just embarrassing. I said before why does anyone think that Cheryuiot should be a personal pacemaker for the Norwegian boys? It was a diamond league race!
If Jakob wanted to run faster then he should have taken the race on and run faster!
In your crazy world Coevett you probably think Cheryuiot is racist for not wanting Jakob to win.
Coevett wrote:
he could still run 3:27 in Monaco next year and be WR holder by 21.
Lmao maybe wait for him to win a DL before you go anointing him the future WR holder, pal.
ex-runner wrote:
clownvett wrote:
Are you really still whining about this you dumb clown? You made a complete fool of yourself right after this race when you claimed that Tim intentionally screwed Jakob over because he didn't want a white guy to break 3:30. This is AFTER Tim had already invited the Ingebrigtsens to train with him in Kenya once the season is over.
Why don't you go post in the doping thread you started and try to support your moronic opinion that all Kenyans cheat.
Just embarrassing. I said before why does anyone think that Cheryuiot should be a personal pacemaker for the Norwegian boys? It was a diamond league race!
If Jakob wanted to run faster then he should have taken the race on and run faster!
In your crazy world Coevett you probably think Cheryuiot is racist for not wanting Jakob to win.
Errr.. projecting on to me words I never said. I get stalked, threatened, harassed for being 'racist' for calling out the Kenyan doping problem, and now my main fault is something I've never done - accuse Potatoe Tim of 'racism' against the Ingebrigtsens.
I wasn't even criticizing him. He has every right to play mind games and not to act as pacemaker for Jakob. Having said that, Tim did let the crowd down a little, and let down the promotors who all wanted faster times.
I was just pointing out (here) that everybody knows Jakob had a sub 3:30 in him at Monaco. When he ran 3:31 at Monaco last year people were calling it unreal. That's pretty good progression in my book.
Coevett wrote:
His progression might 'slow' further (and likely will) and he could still run 3:27 in Monaco next year and be WR holder by 21.
Clean, correct?
Kenyans can't break 3:33 clean, correct?
Norwegians can run 3:25 clean, correct?
Almost 2400 times a Kenyan has bettered 3:38, 63 times a Norwegian has bettered 3:38, including 6 times by some non-Ingrebrigtsen.
But the limit for Kenyans is 3;33, for Norwegians the sky is the limit.
Well thought from the purely facts based Mr. brain.
clean Jakob wrote:
Coevett wrote:
His progression might 'slow' further (and likely will) and he could still run 3:27 in Monaco next year and be WR holder by 21.
Clean, correct?
Kenyans can't break 3:33 clean, correct?
Norwegians can run 3:25 clean, correct?
Almost 2400 times a Kenyan has bettered 3:38, 63 times a Norwegian has bettered 3:38, including 6 times by some non-Ingrebrigtsen.
But the limit for Kenyans is 3;33, for Norwegians the sky is the limit.
Well thought from the purely facts based Mr. brain.
Hi ex-runner.
This is rich coming from you, who claims Tim is a doper, not based on any reasonable suspicion given the busts and testing standards in Kenya, or his association with Kiprop, or his skipping races to 'plant potatoes', but simply because he has ran faster than some supposed 'clean limit' that you plucked out of your behind.
BTW., I once said that in the light of the doping mess in Kenya, we cannot honestly say that a Kenyan has ran faster than 3:33 clean, and I stand by that.
Coevett wrote:
BTW., I once said that in the light of the doping mess in Kenya, we cannot honestly say that a Kenyan has ran faster than 3:33 clean, and I stand by that.
387 times a Kenyan has bettered 3:33, 40 times a Brit, 14 times a Norwegian (an Ingebrigtsen, to be clear).
956 times it was done at all.
clean Norwegians wrote:
Coevett wrote:
BTW., I once said that in the light of the doping mess in Kenya, we cannot honestly say that a Kenyan has ran faster than 3:33 clean, and I stand by that.
387 times a Kenyan has bettered 3:33, 40 times a Brit, 14 times a Norwegian (an Ingebrigtsen, to be clear).
956 times it was done at all.
That's the power of EPO, baby!