Electric Scooters and Bikes Are Making People Even More Fat and Lazy

They are an illness that is supported by the left. They hope people will switch from cars to scooters. In reality people switch from walking and biking and the paths become dangerous to walk and bike

You're implying that fitness should be an imperative for lawmakers. I agree with this position, but few others do, not being able to see the big picture. We're talking about a country that would rather dedicate large swathes of land to people riding around in carts and whacking little balls into holes, an activity that takes very little energy than make parks with decent length running trails.

The prime driving force in considering something like the scooters is profit. Scooter companies pay cities for the right to operate (sometimes exclusively) in their city and then pay taxes on profit earned from scooter riders. Banning the scooters, while it would make things more convenient for exercisers, would eliminate this profit source. Getting people out and about in an activity that doesn't make you stinky is going to get them in shops and restaurants to, generating more profit. We should instead focus on limiting the speed of these scooters and electric bikes in high foot traffic areas. Something like 5-6 mph in high foot traffic areas seems reasonable. The scooter will still be an eye sore and annoying, but at least they won't be swerving into people, causing accidents.

semenyagoat wrote:

They are an illness that is supported by the left. They hope people will switch from cars to scooters. In reality people switch from walking and biking and the paths become dangerous to walk and bike

It has nothing to do with politics, though they do have a lower environmental footprint than cars. The scooters are made and brought (more like dropped off) in cities by companies with a profit motive. If people can commute more easily than with cars, not having to find parking, its a side effect and not the guiding principle. Hell if we could get enough cars off the road due to people on sidewalks on scooters, I'd be happy because I could run there other than at 3 am.

You don't want to admit it but cyclists and skate boarders are every bit as annoying as these scooters. A ton of bikes and skate boards just didn't get dropped off in urban areas for anyone to use though. Assigning a political motive to scooters will see to it that we can't regulate them to the point where they don't interfere with our running. Realize that we are a minority of the fit enough to not be bothered by travelling several blocks to a couple miles by foot. Most of the rest of Americans view a short distance walk from the back side of a parking lot up to the store a huge inconvenience, something to be avoided if at all possible and more than a couple blocks walk might even make them forgo their destination.

it's funny you didn't mention school buses as major contributors to childhood laziness. I'm guessing you work for the Blue Bird Corporation.

I know Spokane sets the speed limit on scooters so that when they are in a high traffic area they drop to 7mph max compared to the normal 17. So they can limit the speeds based location and should in more places.

Also, just based on personal experience and observation, they do reduce cars on the road. The most common thing I see people using them for is to replace short Uber rides. If there is anything we need to take off the streets to make them safer for bikes and pedestrians it is uber drivers, who somehow are the worst drivers despite getting paid to do it.

I really don't understand what's the point of all those trash-talks and arguing. Or that some kind of hype topic, those guys: https://10ebikes.com/electric-bike-vs-road-bike/ now you. Do you actually care if someone else whom you don't know will be fat? Also, regular bike riders might turn a sidewalks into a speed roadway. I think, your own health and condition is what should actually care you.

False. Those little scooters have a weight limit.

SebastianSt wrote:

I agree with you. Not only fat and lazy but even beaten and crippled. Indeed, there are many cases of how people fall from them and get injured. I understand when such electric vehicles use children to play or people with health problems, who can't move for a long time, who have problems with feet. But a healthy person just makes it worse and harms the state of your body. More than that this "toy" is too expensive. My aunt is invalid, and she has a scooter like this (see the link below). She always says that she would give everything to walk and never use transport if she would have the possibility to move independently on her feet.

https://www.scootersnchairs.com/blogs/mobility-scooters/best-electric-shopping-cart

Thank you for response. My friend was just looking for this information.

BlackMichell wrote:

SebastianSt wrote:

I agree with you. Not only fat and lazy but even beaten and crippled. Indeed, there are many cases of how people fall from them and get injured. I understand when such electric vehicles use children to play or people with health problems, who can't move for a long time, who have problems with feet. But a healthy person just makes it worse and harms the state of your body. More than that this "toy" is too expensive. My aunt is invalid, and she has a scooter like this (see the link below). She always says that she would give everything to walk and never use transport if she would have the possibility to move independently on her feet.

https://www.scootersnchairs.com/blogs/mobility-scooters/best-electric-shopping-cart

Thank you for response. My friend was just looking for this information.

No, you are lying. You do not have a friend that was looking for this information on scooters for invalids. This is a running website. You should get NO credit for posting this ad on a running website. Go post on a Disney website where half the park visitors are riding these things.

Scram!

They've massively cut down on cars in the city centre here. One of the problems is there is no centralised bus station and the journeys are all fragmented. People would end up getting a taxi over and over. One of the main streets is snarled up with taxis on Friday and Saturday night to the point they had to divert the busses around the street, adding about 20 minutes on to the journey (but faster than going down that road).

The scooters have been incredibly popular. They seem to be used for 2-3 mile journeys to link one mode of transport to another, i.e. train to bus.

I do agree there could be problems with them being on the pavements though. Nothing has been reported so far. Not seen anyone on the electronic skateboards (Boosted boards). These electric light vehicles are good options for commuting in the city centre.

For one of my years at uni I decided to commute in by bike. The problem was that there was a large hill on the way into uni. I just got fed up of getting there, rushing into a hot lecture theatre and sitting there with sweat dripping down my back, it was gross. University buildings are massively over-heated and going into that from the cold and pedalling up hills is not pleasant. One of my friends has bought an e-bike and he says it's changed everything for him.

Yep the left realized there's too many cars on the road which also contributes to pollution and climate change. They are all about "convenience." The problem with being too preoccupied with convenience as a society is that people get really lazy and even normalize laziness and fatness. What a sad scoeity we have coming through and you can thank the Liberals for manifesting that environment of toxicity.

I don't think an electric scooter makes a person fatter. Yes, of course, if you have such a scooter, you are unlikely to choose a walking trip, but people still like to walk and look at the streets and trees more than ride scooters. It's always more pleasant to visit the city on foot, have you noticed? If you come to another country as a tourist, you do not get in the car or call a taxi. You walk around the city or take a gyro scooter. I saw a lot of people in Prague on bicycles or scooters. Is each of them lazy? No. All these people were of the beautiful physique. I saw on riderly.com many options for walking around the cities of Europe on scooters. Yes, you ride it, but you go to museums, climb stairs, and do physical activity most of the way! It's on https://riderly.com/blog/rental-scooter-in-prague-tips/

TimothyFunes wrote:

I really don't understand what's the point of all those trash-talks and arguing. Or that some kind of hype topic, those guys:

https://10ebikes.com/electric-bike-vs-road-bike/

now you. Do you actually care if someone else whom you don't know will be fat? Also, regular bike riders might turn a sidewalks into a speed roadway. I think, your own health and condition is what should actually care you.

Other people being fat and unhealthy increase our healthcare costs.

The more electric vehicles like this the more there are obese and unhealthy people who just don't need to move

Electric bikes are a bit of an oddity. They belong neither on the roads (too slow), nor on the bike path (too fast).

It does get people out of their cars and moves them towards exercise, even if the activity is but an illusion. The latent potential for more vigorous activity perhaps merits leniency. The simplest tweak would be to limit both maximum speed and acceleration, with pedal assist being the only mode of operation.

You cannot legislate away sloth or foolishness. We as society do not need more onerous government regulations infringing into the domain of the individual. There are far too many intrusive ordinances as is.