Wow: Guy who didn't even make NCAA finals - Carlos Villareal of Arizona/Mexico - just won the Pan Am 1500 gold in 3:39

Further supports that Nuguse is the future US 1500 (and possible 5000) star.

That was a beautiful kick

Gregorek is a tactical idiot.

Wow. That was cool. Thanks for posting it.

Reminded me of the video of Manzano running through the field at the 2005 NCAAs.

is there some unwritten agreement that no country sends its best runners to the Pan Am games?

Bad Wigins wrote:

is there some unwritten agreement that no country sends its best runners to the Pan Am games?

Back in the day, we did send our best runners.

I think if he handled the conditions better and made the final, he would've won NCAA's. He was such a top performer throughout the year.

Bad Wigins wrote:

is there some unwritten agreement that no country sends its best runners to the Pan Am games?

Who does Mexico have that is faster than Villarreal? And Gregorek is easily in the top 10, arguably top 5 of American 1500 runners, and its kind of a busy year with world champs and diamond league, so some of the US top guys do have bigger fish to fry than the Pan American games.

FrenchDawg wrote:

[quote]Bad Wigins wrote:

... so some of the US top guys do have bigger fish to fry than try to figure ot of their ticket to the Pan American games was valid.

Pan Am was a cut-and-paste for Carlos:

https://www.flotrack.org/video/6361595-tasty-race-carlos-villarreal-leads-three-under-358

FrenchDawg wrote:

Gregorek is easily in the top 10, arguably top 5 of American 1500 runners...

He was 9th at USAs last year, and 10th this year, so...

FrenchDawg wrote:

its kind of a busy year with world champs and diamond league, so some of the US top guys do have bigger fish to fry than the Pan American games.

Someone should tell the Pan Am games to reschedule to a non-WC, non-olympic year then. Kind of hard to find a non-DL year. They also still might be crowded out by World Relays.

I think indeed there is an unwritten agreement that the title of western hemisphere's best is not a big deal.

Im sorry but Gregorek must be the worst tactical racer ever.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Someone should tell the Pan Am games to reschedule to a non-WC, non-olympic year then. Kind of hard to find a non-DL year. They also still might be crowded out by World Relays.

Umm yeah the Pan Am Games covers a ton of sports, they are not changing what years they run.

Hejendo76 wrote:

Im sorry but Gregorek must be the worst tactical racer ever.

No that title goes to Alan Webb

I've missed it, possibly, but I haven't seen any of the "What the bleep is Carlos Villarreal doing representing Mexico when he's an American from Arizona???" garbage. You know:

>Sam Parsons opts to run for Germany and gets slammed left and right for his decision.

>Mondo DuPlantis vaults for Sweden and gets called out for his un-American sentiments.

>Alexi Pappas runs for Greece and gets stomped upon here on LetsRun.

>The late David Torrence ran for Peru in the 2016 Olympics and was trashed on LetsRun for it.

Good for Carlos for his choice (and to the others for their by-the-rules decisions), and congrats on his Pan Am Games win.

I'm forgetting other Americans who represented other countries in international competition, but I do remember that Leo Manzano carried both US and Mexico flags after his 2012 Olympic silver in the 1500m - and was on the receiving end of some serious rage because of it.

OK, haters, do your thing and post some ugly words about Villarreal now!

Mas Duro!

I see Jager ran for Uruguay and ran under the name Gregorio. Came in last poor lad.

Mexico has been dominating the distances on the Men's side, must say something about running in tough conditions (Lima is no joke) -

Marathon

Silver and Bronze

5000m

Gold

1500m

Gold