• Not Again!
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 9:49AM - in reply to TakeTheT
      • Not Again!
      • Did somebody shame her?
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      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 9:53AM - in reply to TakeTheT
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      • Good catch. It sure matches her bio. Sounds like she took her secret to her grave. Now we will never know.
    • what secret?
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 10:15AM - in reply to Hounddogharrier
      • what secret?
      • Hounddogharrier wrote:

        Good catch. It sure matches her bio. Sounds like she took her secret to her grave. Now we will never know.

        Never know? You mean you think there may have been a chance she did actually run the full 26.2?
    • TakeTheT
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 10:18AM - in reply to Randolph Scott
      • TakeTheT
      • Yeah...they hadn't update that yesterday. A friend had posted the obit on Facebook. Running Times contacted me and I said I couldn't verify it 100%, they should check, but it sure sounds like her. Boston media did not publish a thing. It was a HUGE deal when this happened!
    • TakeTheT
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 10:26AM - in reply to what secret?
      • TakeTheT
      • Yeah....if you watch the documentary footage and read the articles, a freelance photographer road with her on the subway to the NYC Marathon finish and then she wandered into the medical tent area at the right time and somehow walked away with a 2:56 7th place finish! This should have been a movie! She must've known ENOUGH for her to get these times locked up...had she waited a minute or two, she might've seemed more legit at Boston! It's incredible she timed her appearances at the finish so accurately in a day and age where it was much, much harder!
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      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 10:39AM - in reply to TakeTheT
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      • TakeTheT wrote:

        Yeah....if you watch the documentary footage and read the articles, a freelance photographer road with her on the subway to the NYC Marathon finish and then she wandered into the medical tent area at the right time and somehow walked away with a 2:56 7th place finish! This should have been a movie! She must've known ENOUGH for her to get these times locked up...had she waited a minute or two, she might've seemed more legit at Boston! It's incredible she timed her appearances at the finish so accurately in a day and age where it was much, much harder!

        People could just look at her body and know that she had cheated. I had the impression at the time that her intention was to finish in a more believable position and that she effed up and jumped on the course too early.
    • TakeTheT
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 10:46AM - in reply to SDSU Aztec
      • TakeTheT
      • Absolutely...she is not "lean" or even skinny like a marathon. And the iron on M.T.I. shirt may have been a giveaway....Pretty embarrassing moment in Boston Marathon history. The video clearly shows her poor running form. Pretty incredible she held the title for almost a week! MarathonInvestigation.com would have broken the case within minutes!
    • HRE
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 10:50AM - in reply to SDSU Aztec
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      • SDSU Aztec wrote:

        TakeTheT wrote:

        Yeah....if you watch the documentary footage and read the articles, a freelance photographer road with her on the subway to the NYC Marathon finish and then she wandered into the medical tent area at the right time and somehow walked away with a 2:56 7th place finish! This should have been a movie! She must've known ENOUGH for her to get these times locked up...had she waited a minute or two, she might've seemed more legit at Boston! It's incredible she timed her appearances at the finish so accurately in a day and age where it was much, much harder!

        People could just look at her body and know that she had cheated. I had the impression at the time that her intention was to finish in a more believable position and that she effed up and jumped on the course too early.

        That was my take as well. Evidently "finishing" so well at the NY Marathon really impressed her boss who offered her time off with pay and maybe (been a long time since I read the story) expenses to run at Boston. Speculation was that she felt the need to place well there to impress her boss more and justify the support he gave her. So she was hoping to repeat what she'd done at New York and "finish" fairly high and just miscalculated. I also recall that a few years later her name was in the news again for something fraud like, maybe passing bad checks.
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    • She was a crook
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 10:56AM - in reply to HRE
      • She was a crook
      • Embezzling her workplace and cocaine dealing.....
    • YMMV
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      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 11:15AM - in reply to mikerossiposer
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      • mikerossiposer wrote:

        GOAT race cheat

        NOT the GOAT, or she wouldn't have been found out so quick. Definitely the OG though (though in the 1906 Olympic marathon some competitors tried to cheat by hitchhiking).
    • Boston Marathon enthusiast
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 11:36AM - in reply to YMMV
      • Boston Marathon enthusiast
      • I was there on Commonwealth Ave as a spectator, and the first woman was so obviously Jacqueline Gareau from Canada. The very supportive crowd went wild for her. Did she ever get a bum deal!
    • Will the Rosie Ruiz Track Club continue?
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 11:46AM - in reply to HRE
      • Will the Rosie Ruiz Track Club continue?
      • HRE wrote:

        I also recall that a few years later her name was in the news again for something fraud like, maybe passing bad checks.

        I seem to remember that she ripped off the very same boss who had supported her before and after the Boston Marathon fiasco.

        The photo from the obituary is definitely THE Rosie Ruiz.

        This story, from when Gareau was brought back and honored a few years later, mentions "Rosie Vivas" towards the end: https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/boston-marathon-to-give-gareau-time-in-spotlight/ . Same as the obituary.

        Gareau talks about feeling sad for Rosie, more than for herself. Well, think about it. Rosie was obviously damaged goods, and her responses in the NYC Marathon and Boston Marathon, and forever afterwards, show deep trouble. What she did was ridiculously wrong, but there's still room for compassion.
    • I would argue Shorter, projection is the tell tell sign
      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 11:51AM - in reply to Luv2Run
      • I would argue Shorter, projection is the tell tell sign
      • Luv2Run wrote:

        mikerossiposer wrote:

        GOAT race cheat

        I would argue Cierpinski...

        I would argue Shorter, projection is the tell tell sign i.e. Paula, and Carl Lewis.
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      • RE: Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week? 8/5/2019 11:54AM - in reply to TakeTheT
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      • The answer to your question is no, she did not die this week.
        Look like she died a month ago.