Just checking the latest thread and found that a Ryan hill ran 7.30! That’s huge, I looked this pro up and found something from 2015 or 16. Where is he?
Has he passed away? Can’t find anything confirming this? But no further carrier stuff after 2016?!
That 7.30 indicates much better potential at 5000m then 13.05!
Is he related to Ryan Hall?
He did run an indoor 5000m in Boston in 2019 according to his IAAF profile, finished in 13:36.61.
Another athlete currently broken by Schumacher. Who knows if he’ll race again this year. His 13:36 is absolutely terrible given where he should be...
He's running circles in the shower trying to get wet.
He was doing really well from 2015 into 2016. Then he didn’t make the Olympic team after probably being favored to do so. He hasn’t done too much since then. The rise of Chelimo coincided with Hill’s decline.
Cortez the killer wrote:
Is he related to Ryan Hall?
lol this tool doesn't know who Ryan Hill is.
Sorry for my ignorance. wrote:
That 7.30 indicates much better potential at 5000m then 13.05!
...”then 13.05” makes no sense at all.
Than not Then wrote:
Sorry for my ignorance. wrote:
That 7.30 indicates much better potential at 5000m then 13.05!
...”then 13.05” makes no sense at all.
What doesn’t make sense? A 7:30 3k is more impressive than a 13:05 5k (although his best distance is 3k). But still, I thought he had a chance at sub 13 at one point. Seems like he peaked in 2016 but I hope he proves me wrong!
BTC is a black hole of health/racing status, but it would appear that they are approaching a 100% injury rate among men.
PrZ wrote:
Than not Then wrote:
...”then 13.05” makes no sense at all.
What doesn’t make sense? A 7:30 3k is more impressive than a 13:05 5k (although his best distance is 3k). But still, I thought he had a chance at sub 13 at one point. Seems like he peaked in 2016 but I hope he proves me wrong!
Seriously? You don’t know the correct use of Than and Then like the OP?
Than not Then wrote:
PrZ wrote:
What doesn’t make sense? A 7:30 3k is more impressive than a 13:05 5k (although his best distance is 3k). But still, I thought he had a chance at sub 13 at one point. Seems like he peaked in 2016 but I hope he proves me wrong!
Seriously? You don’t know the correct use of Than and Then like the OP?
Sorry I didn’t know proper grammar triggered you so much!
What's with all the BTC hate?! They just had a dude run 1258. Worlds aren't till super late, take a chill pill.
I am thinking alot of the guys took some risks and pushed the envelope in their training due to the off year and a later than normal Worlds. Lots of time to train without missing anything major if it didn't pan out.
And let's be real...Ryan Hill has always been a primo 3k runner. 743 in college and an indoor medal. Hasn't quite figured out the 5k yet but unfortunately his best distance is a seldom run outdoors stuck between two contested event. Tough place to be.
BTC to the moon. You haters have no clue.
irishdude103 wrote:
What's with all the BTC hate?! They just had a dude run 1258. Worlds aren't till super late, take a chill pill.
I am thinking alot of the guys took some risks and pushed the envelope in their training due to the off year and a later than normal Worlds. Lots of time to train without missing anything major if it didn't pan out.
And let's be real...Ryan Hill has always been a primo 3k runner. 743 in college and an indoor medal. Hasn't quite figured out the 5k yet but unfortunately his best distance is a seldom run outdoors stuck between two contested event. Tough place to be.
They have 1-2 guys run out of their minds, 5 racing but too tired and overtrained to actually race well, then another 8-10 very injured not racing at all. Standard MO of Jerry “Meat Grinder” Schumacher. IMO this is not great coaching, even if 1 guy runs sub 13 or gets a medal, you’ve wasted the talent of a dozen other NCAA stars.
grind that beef wrote:
irishdude103 wrote:
What's with all the BTC hate?! They just had a dude run 1258. Worlds aren't till super late, take a chill pill.
I am thinking alot of the guys took some risks and pushed the envelope in their training due to the off year and a later than normal Worlds. Lots of time to train without missing anything major if it didn't pan out.
And let's be real...Ryan Hill has always been a primo 3k runner. 743 in college and an indoor medal. Hasn't quite figured out the 5k yet but unfortunately his best distance is a seldom run outdoors stuck between two contested event. Tough place to be.
They have 1-2 guys run out of their minds, 5 racing but too tired and overtrained to actually race well, then another 8-10 very injured not racing at all. Standard MO of Jerry “Meat Grinder” Schumacher. IMO this is not great coaching, even if 1 guy runs sub 13 or gets a medal, you’ve wasted the talent of a dozen other NCAA stars.
So you're saying that there are 17 men in btc? Exaggerate much?
Is it different than any other professional sport though? If you can't win medals, sorry they will get another NCAA kid who can. Ya.....it's a meat grinder but unless you are truly a phenomenal talent, the time you get to develop as a professional is a short window for a reason. Nike and other companies want to win, not develop every kid to be the "best runners" they can be. This isn't HS XC where we want the best for the kids on and off the track. The powers at be want American world beaters wearing their brand. Period. This is a business, albeit a small one compared to most other sports.
*Listen to some Mike Holloway interviews about his recruiting and training philosophies. It isn't just pros who have this take on what it takes to win in elite athletics.
I get there is a balance between developing talent and maximizing god given abilities for long term success. BUT.....professional sports is inherently a meat grinder. Track is no exception. I believe it is naive to think every NCAA champion will make international teams and break through consistently.....look no further than our friend Ryan Hill! It's hard to make it and at a certain point you either do or you don't. There are too many talented athletes out there and sadly not enough resources in our sport being dedicated to athlete development to have a long leash for professional distance runners.
Ryan Hill best finish was a runner up at NCAAs but you still get the idea!
Sorry for my ignorance. wrote:
That 7.30 indicates much better potential at 5000m then 13.05!
Not really