Matthew Boling's 44.7 split isn't as impressive as it seems

*I made an error in this post. Jamal Walton didn't split 44.5 @Pan Am Juniors. He split 44.5 @the Great Southwest Classic

lol230847u23048230948230 wrote:

I'm fully confident that he will one day win NCAA's and he'll run 9.7 low and win the Olympics. Just this one performance (I felt) was a bit more hyped up than need be.

I'm not fully confident. And I think he's a stud.

How in the world could anyone be fully confident that a kid in HS was one day going to win the Olympics in the 100m?

Do you realize the guys ahead of him in the US junior 100m list never even made the Olympics in an individual event?Plus the Georgia coach thinks his best event is maybe the LJ.

The time is impressive because it shows that he has great range.

Way back when Cali HSer Frank Lomardi tied the WR in the 100 yards.

At the 1924 Olympics HSer Francis Hussey ran the leadoff leg on the USA 4x1, all he did was beat up on the 100m gold medalist Harold Abrahams, gave the USA a two m lead.

HSer Houston McTear tied the 100 yard WR at 9.0 as a junior.

Both HS kids Dwayne Evans and Johnny Jones made the Olympic 200/100 finals in 1976.

In the mid 50's Alameda HSer James Jackson les the nation with his 9.4 100 yarder, not talking just HS.

The thing with Bolin is it's been a long long time since we have seen a fast white HS sprinter, if he were black....ho hum.

Whatley wrote:

Way back when Cali HSer Frank Lomardi tied the WR in the 100 yards.

At the 1924 Olympics HSer Francis Hussey ran the leadoff leg on the USA 4x1, all he did was beat up on the 100m gold medalist Harold Abrahams, gave the USA a two m lead.

HSer Houston McTear tied the 100 yard WR at 9.0 as a junior.

Both HS kids Dwayne Evans and Johnny Jones made the Olympic 200/100 finals in 1976.

In the mid 50's Alameda HSer James Jackson les the nation with his 9.4 100 yarder, not talking just HS.

The thing with Bolin is it's been a long long time since we have seen a fast white HS sprinter, if he were black....ho hum.

From 1930's through 1964, 10.2 to 10.4 100m earned a man an Olympic medal. Black men and white men were earning 100m medals during those 32 years of Summer Olympics. That entire era was cinder/dirt with very heavy shoes/spikes. Blacks have stayed with 100m. As training, nutrition, shoes and track surfaces have improved, blacks have improved. Whites en mass quit sprinting 100m. It's a question for social scientists not biologists.

None that matters at all. We simply have a group pf people from Western Africa who were blessed with a more speed friendly physique. Size with speed, tall with speed. quicks and elusiveness.

All of China/Japan, The Middle East, White Europe can't compare to tiny Trinidad when it comes to sprinting, why is that?

There are no white Bo Jackson's, Tommie Smith, Randy Moss, Barry Sanders, that kind of thing comes from Western Africa only.

Whatley wrote:

None that matters at all. We simply have a group pf people from Western Africa who were blessed with a more speed friendly physique. Size with speed, tall with speed. quicks and elusiveness.

All of China/Japan, The Middle East, White Europe can't compare to tiny Trinidad when it comes to sprinting, why is that?

There are no white Bo Jackson's, Tommie Smith, Randy Moss, Barry Sanders, that kind of thing comes from Western Africa only.

You simply offered bar stool science.

hes more of a 100/200 runner,and i didnt realise he could run a great 400.thats probably worth a sub 46 400,from a standing start,which in itself is brilliant considering hes so young.

I simpy went with common sense.

Who are the big speedy NFL running backs, yep, those with western African roots.

Who are the sprinters running sub 9.90/19.80 without altitude, yep. those with roots to western Africa.

Nigeria has had more sub 10,00 sprinters than every country in the world except USA/Jamaica.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks, yep......too slow.

Just watch sports, there it all is in living color.

jeff tallon wrote:

hes more of a 100/200 runner,and i didnt realise he could run a great 400.thats probably worth a sub 46 400,from a standing start,which in itself is brilliant considering hes so young.

Most likely, Boling's best potential is 200m. Issue: six 100m guys will make Olympic team (most likely), only three guys will make Olympics, 200m. Six guys make the Olympic team, 400m. 4x400m relay is less likely to DQ.

I totally agree, we do see white sprinters hanging at 200m. The last white Olympic sprinters for the USA were Mark Lutz and Larry Questad in the 200m. Then there is Kenteris, Gamili, LeMaitre.

Whatley wrote:

I simpy went with common sense.

Who are the big speedy NFL running backs, yep, those with western African roots.

Who are the sprinters running sub 9.90/19.80 without altitude, yep. those with roots to western Africa.

Nigeria has had more sub 10,00 sprinters than every country in the world except USA/Jamaica.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks, yep......too slow.

Just watch sports, there it all is in living color.

Nothing you have stated is a rigorous analysis.

White cornerbacks? Really? There are black NFL cornerbacks no faster than 4.6 40 yard dash speed as measured by NFL. Those 4.6+ 40 yard dash guys most likely are about 11.00 to 11.25 100 metres guys. You may ask for an example: Richard Sherman. He was slow in college. Are you telling me, no white people are faster than Sherman?

I do not know why whites stopped sprinting 100m? Maybe they're playing tennis? If you were fast and you could play tennis or do T&F, which would you do?

Relay splits don't count.

I have a student, I don't coach anymore, who ran 2:06.xx as a freshman. He split a 2:02.9 .

He tells people he ran 2:02.

It was a relay with a PARENT getting splits. Yeah- it's accurate.

lol230847u23048230948230 wrote:

Justin Robinson ran 44.8 on the open so I'm assuming he can run 44.6 ish for a split.

if he ran 44.8 open, that converts to a ~44.1 split. i've always used 0.7 seconds as a reasonable differential for a running start.

Whatley wrote:

I simpy went with common sense.

Who are the big speedy NFL running backs, yep, those with western African roots.

Who are the sprinters running sub 9.90/19.80 without altitude, yep. those with roots to western Africa.

Nigeria has had more sub 10,00 sprinters than every country in the world except USA/Jamaica.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks, yep......too slow.

Just watch sports, there it all is in living color.

McCaffrey is as quick as any NFL running back, and he was one of the top in the league (All Pro) in his second year this last season.

CB isn’t just about speed, there are tons of white guys in other sports who are just as fast and agile. I would bet you that Ronaldo could have been an NFL corner but he makes way more money playing soccer.

I’m not saying there aren’t genetic differences but there are plenty of every race who are fast/quick enough to play those NFL positions.

Boling ran a 9.98w and 10.13 legal, why do you think his coach never ran him in the 100m until this season? Probably a latent assumption he was better in the long sprints due to his skin color, there is definitely a selection bias.

Whatley wrote:

All of China/Japan, The Middle East, White Europe can't compare to tiny Trinidad when it comes to sprinting, why is that?

Drugs.

No one said or acted like it was a once in a decade performance. It's SJW types, you HHouse types, that simply can't stand a white youngster doing well in events that are dominated by black athletes. The worst of the bunch are you mensheviks. Your hatred is becoming more and more transparent to everyone.

Leave the kid alone. Hopefully he'll do well in college and beyond, while avoiding haters like you. Tossing in your disingenuous final paragraph does nothing to hide your true intent.

Whatley wrote:

I simpy went with common sense.

Who are the big speedy NFL running backs, yep, those with western African roots.

Who are the sprinters running sub 9.90/19.80 without altitude, yep. those with roots to western Africa.

Nigeria has had more sub 10,00 sprinters than every country in the world except USA/Jamaica.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks, yep......too slow.

Just watch sports, there it all is in living color.

Eh, the NFL isn't exactly color blind when it comes to the draft or slotting. Not quite a good example. There's some truth to what you see. Track is the better example. It's similar to the World's Strongest Man competition or Olympic weightlifting, blacks are fast, explosive, but weak in comparison to whites and Asians in terms of raw strength. That's why black guys tend to stick with powerlifting, better known as "cheat lifting" in Eastern Europe and much of Asia.

McCaffrey isn't about "quicks". He has good speed and power with vision. But.......give me three other white RB's with speed? Yep, you can't.

CB is about speed and that abilty to cut and cover, quicks.....is what matters here. Give me the name of a white cat who belongs there, another.....you can't.

No there aren't plenty who can play NFL cornerback, totally wrong.

Darrell Green 10.08

Leonard Lyles 9.5

James Trapp 10.14

Lawrence Johnson 9.4

Deion Sanders 10.26

Rod Woodson World class hurdler

Jim Johnson 14.00 hurdler

..........all played DB in the NFL.