Men: 2:20
Women: 2:50
Men: 2:20
Women: 2:50
Probably about 2:30 or 2:40 which would probably get you respect on your local football team. Outside of a competitive track setting, anything in the 2s is actually relatively fast for an average person and most humans just really aren’t cut out for truly fast running even with training.
Men: 3:00
Women: 3:40
doha streaming question wrote:
Men: 3:00
Women: 3:40
Our species can do better than that.
The low end of potential for men is 1:40 but the upper end is infinity so the average has to be much higher than anyone wants to admit. It is probably 5 minutes.
Most be a troll wrote:
doha streaming question wrote:
Men: 3:00
Women: 3:40
Our species can do better than that.
But not our sub-species.
1:48
It has to be close to 2 flat for guys I mean c'mon I ran 2:19 my first year of running as a skinny 16 yo off 20mpw of mostly easy running no way that's better than most people's genetic potential it's just that most people will never train enough to touch their genetic potential
Underestimating wrote:
It has to be close to 2 flat for guys I mean c'mon I ran 2:19 my first year of running as a skinny 16 yo off 20mpw of mostly easy running no way that's better than most people's genetic potential it's just that most people will never train enough to touch their genetic potential
+1
Underestimating wrote:
It has to be close to 2 flat for guys I mean c'mon I ran 2:19 my first year of running as a skinny 16 yo off 20mpw of mostly easy running no way that's better than most people's genetic potential it's just that most people will never train enough to touch their genetic potential
2:19 is smoking compared to an overwhelming majority of fit young males, plenty of men can’t even break 3 but I do agree that most of that is due to being undertrained. But there are people who could run much faster (about 2 flat) than you off the same training you are doing (and at the same age and weight), their genetic potentials are obviously much higher. Running 2:19 on unstructured training iindicates above average but nowhere near elite talent. I would actually say that for the average person, who would probaly be about 35 years old who also may/may not be a female, the average mean potential for all people is probably right around 2:45 to 3:00.
Being male, low on body fat, physically active and young already puts you well at the far end of the bell curve when it comes to 800m ability amongst humans.
2:05/2:45
I consider myself genetically above average. In middle school, I always won the mile in PE, and went on to become, at one point, the #1 runner on my high school XC team in a school of 800 or so boys, with a 5K time of 16:34. My 800m PR? 2:15. Make no mistake about it, most people are slow as f*ck by competitive running standards.
Slow as a mother f*ck wrote:
I consider myself genetically above average. In middle school, I always won the mile in PE, and went on to become, at one point, the #1 runner on my high school XC team in a school of 800 or so boys, with a 5K time of 16:34. My 800m PR? 2:15. Make no mistake about it, most people are slow as f*ck by competitive running standards.
People are truly shocked and amazed by the speeds even very, very slow competitive runners run at. Looking back, I was the winner of all running events in my year group in physical ed. Now, fast foward 10 years later and I am a hobby-jogger female in her mid 20s who sometimes enters all-comer meets to test my fitness and race for enjoyment. I run like 2:40s in the 800m, sometimes I come in DFL in meets and yet when some of my non-running friends (who are all still in relatively good shape) see me run intervals, they tend to say things like “holy hell, you should be in the olympics” or “I would never be physically able to do what you do”. I get these comments from both males and females. I really do think most truly average people would have a hard time breaking 3 minutes in an 800m. If you consider that a slow time that you could run while 30lbs overweight, you may consider yourself an average runner but you are probably not average. Stay humble and don’t assume everyone can do what you can do.
Math did wrote:
The low end of potential for men is 1:40 but the upper end is infinity so the average has to be much higher than anyone wants to admit. It is probably 5 minutes.
Then the mean is infinity...
Yes that is true but it won't contribute much when people think it is 2:05. At least saying 5 minutes gives people something they can comprehend, and of course, argue against.
these types of questions never have a definitive answer because:
1) no one can agree on what is considered the average person
2) each person that would fit into that “average” category has different genetic potential. you can’t simply take one person’s potential and assume that of everyone else in the same category.
Median guy would be 3 minutes but mean time from population at peak would be 5 minutes.
Median for people in their 20s:
Men: 2:15
Women: 2:45
99th percentile for people in their 20s:
Men: 1:56
Women: 2:13
Between two and three minutes. Closer to two for males, closer to three for females.
Median:
man - 2:02 or so. There are plenty who will just be awful. I think genetic potential is almost about basic fitness and fast twitch composition. Anyone can lose weight and get in shape. Optimal training for a couple of years, they could run at least 26.x for 200m and positive split a 59:63.
I do not really know women's times. Probably a little slower than the elite conversion because lots of women have body types unsuitable for running fast. 2:30 or a little worse for the median.