Jim is going for the Olympic standard in the Marathon presumably because he wants to make the Olympic team. LOL. If he thinks he will beat Fable, Ward, and Rupp he's an idiot. Hell he'll be lucky to get top 10. Don't get me wrong Jim is a really great ultra runners but ultra runners don't make the Olympic marathon team.
Don't know until you try. It's not like this is a complete pipe dream - he's got the potential.
Why wouldn't he do this? Guy ran a 64 minute half off ultra training.
Isn't this what you people want? For the best ultra runners to try their hands at classic road distances to "prove" their fitness or lack of? Jim has a chance to hit that time, and if he can hit that time he has a chance to make the team. I'm not saying its likely, but it depends on the day and the race.
Zack (hh) wrote:
Jim is going for the Olympic standard in the Marathon presumably because he wants to make the Olympic team. LOL. If he thinks he will beat Fable, Ward, and Rupp he's an idiot. Hell he'll be lucky to get top 10. Don't get me wrong Jim is a really great ultra runners but ultra runners don't make the Olympic marathon team.
His track PRs are decent and assuming he's improved since then, 2:11:30 is not out of the question. Did he say he could beat Rupp?
Zack (hh) wrote:
but ultra runners don't make the Olympic marathon team.
Duh, because they're training specifically for and racing ultras...
I personally think that he has a shot at the standard during the trials, but it's a big long shot, mostly because of probable weather. The problem that I see is with his running style. His ego won't let him just run even splits and outlast everyone. He'll push the pace too early trying to put his stamp on the race, blow up, and cruise it in. All of this makes his entry in the trials interesting because we don't know exactly what he'll do until he does it.
This probably will go well as his sub 6 hour 100k last Saturday. He was just 55 minutes slower.
A 1:04 HM indicates a 2:13:26 Marathon according to one of the race calculators. 2 Minutes fast is a lot in this speed bracket. And isn't the next OT on a hilly course?
I am not seeing a strategy here. Walmsley is going back and forts between 100 milers, HM, 100k and Marathons. That that make sense? Probably not.
Well said.
Classic LRC, hate for all, without prejudice.
He also wanted to break 6h for 100k, and we know how that went. He also wanted to break 14h at Western States.
Jim is fast, but he has done nothing that indicates he could break 2:12'. He isn't fitter, more talented, or has better judgement of pace and effort than Parker Stinson.
Jim - could probably run 2:13-15, some day, with enough training and marathon-only focus. Which is impressive.
Parker - has the ability to break 2:10, imho, if he stops f-ing up.
What cracks me up is that he thinks running up and down in the Canyon gives him some sort of advantage over the best US marathoners. In his words, he'll be "dangerous at the trials."
That's what happens when you surround yourself with brown-nosers: you believe your own hype. He hasn't run a marathon yet, and some people refer to him as an "accomplished marathoner", like the lady announcer in the Hoka event the other day.
Stop saying he run 64' off ultra training, guys -- you know full well he was doing specific workouts since late november.
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
He also wanted to break 6h for 100k, and we know how that went. He also wanted to break 14h at Western States.
Jim is fast, but he has done nothing that indicates he could break 2:12'. He isn't fitter, more talented, or has better judgement of pace and effort than Parker Stinson.
Jim - could probably run 2:13-15, some day, with enough training and marathon-only focus. Which is impressive.
Parker - has the ability to break 2:10, imho, if he stops f-ing up.
What cracks me up is that he thinks running up and down in the Canyon gives him some sort of advantage over the best US marathoners. In his words, he'll be "dangerous at the trials."
That's what happens when you surround yourself with brown-nosers: you believe your own hype. He hasn't run a marathon yet, and some people refer to him as an "accomplished marathoner", like the lady announcer in the Hoka event the other day.
Stop saying he run 64' off ultra training, guys -- you know full well he was doing specific workouts since late november.
so crazy, I heard a rumor of this message board where a gathering of no name, never made it runners make a lot of ignorant comments, throw out a lot of criticism, and even crazier...bash pro runners even olympic medalists as to what they can and can't do...
It appears I stumbled upon this place others speak of..
64 minute half marathon(did it on very little half marathon training), 50 mile unofficial world record holder, decent track runner in college, running 5 minute pace for the marathon seems within reach. Wouldn't be surprised if he could go sub 2:09 on a European course.
Carbon X factor wrote:
I personally think that he has a shot at the standard during the trials, but it's a big long shot, mostly because of probable weather. The problem that I see is with his running style. His ego won't let him just run even splits and outlast everyone. He'll push the pace too early trying to put his stamp on the race, blow up, and cruise it in. All of this makes his entry in the trials interesting because we don't know exactly what he'll do until he does it.
You're a pretty good mindreader.
I hope he tries to be competitive and run smart at the trials. Don't try to solo a 2:11:30.
He will realize he won't run sub-2:11:30 and be a DNS at the oly trials.
what are you talking about? wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if he could go sub 2:09 on a European course.
Khalid Khannouchi
Galen Rupp
Ryan Hall
Dathan Ritzenhein
Meb Keflezghi
Bob Kempainen
Alberto Salazar
Dick Beardsley
Abdi Abdirahman
Jim Walmsley???
One of these things is not like the others.
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
He also wanted to break 6h for 100k, and we know how that went. He also wanted to break 14h at Western States.
Jim is fast, but he has done nothing that indicates he could break 2:12'. He isn't fitter, more talented, or has better judgement of pace and effort than Parker Stinson.
Jim - could probably run 2:13-15, some day, with enough training and marathon-only focus. Which is impressive.
Parker - has the ability to break 2:10, imho, if he stops f-ing up.
What cracks me up is that he thinks running up and down in the Canyon gives him some sort of advantage over the best US marathoners. In his words, he'll be "dangerous at the trials."
That's what happens when you surround yourself with brown-nosers: you believe your own hype. He hasn't run a marathon yet, and some people refer to him as an "accomplished marathoner", like the lady announcer in the Hoka event the other day.
Stop saying he run 64' off ultra training, guys -- you know full well he was doing specific workouts since late november.
Agree 100%, could not have said it better my self.
what are you talking about? wrote:
64 minute half marathon(did it on very little half marathon training), 50 mile unofficial world record holder, decent track runner in college, running 5 minute pace for the marathon seems within reach. Wouldn't be surprised if he could go sub 2:09 on a European course.
LMAO funniest post I've read in awhile.
Ledi wrote:
Don't know until you try. It's not like this is a complete pipe dream - he's got the potential.
Exactly. Why not go for it? At worst he won't get it which is exactly what would happen if he doesn't go for it.
I wish him nothing but the best. How does this effect your lives? It does not. Why not applaud someone for attempting to do great things opposed to tearing someone down.
"Anything that comes easy, is not worth a dime"
Woody Hayes