Canaday BQ Plan vs Pfitzinger vs Hanson

Which one incorporates the most steak and whole milk?

I liked the Canaday BQ Plan because it's idiot proof and easy for me to understand and implement. I'm absolutely certain that you can be successful with any of them as long as you listen to your body and complete the training.

Santos wrote:

What would you recommend? Reasons?

Little background: I'm looking to break 3:05. Best marathon to date is 3:07. Maximum weekly mileage I could hit would likely be about 75 this upcoming build up.

pfitzinger. he is the man. followed his peak at 85 and hit a 2:54 marathon. follow the schedule and read the chapters

Sounds like you've used the plan, meat tornado. His website mentions "it does not follow a strict 7-day cycle" - does that mean the long run isn't always on a weekend? Don't think I could squeeze in a LR on a weekday morning before work.

Sage- If you read this, it would be cool if you showed a sample week of the program looks like, just to get a feel. It seems like most other coaches do it (at least ones that use certain online platforms that seem to make it easy to show)

You don't need a plan.

Each week do a long run between 16-22 miles. Some of those should be slow (8:00-8:30 or so is fine), others should include miles at goal marathon pace. I like to peak with a 22 miler with 10 or so at goal marathon pace.

Each week do a longer tempo run. For a 3:05 marathon you're probably looking at something like 6:40-6:50 pace and 2x5k, 3x2 mile, 3x5k, something like that.

Every other week do a longer interval session. Yasso 800s are stupid as a predictor, but it is a good workout. Work up to 10x800 @ 3:05 per repeat.

You should try to race once a month.

Do a 2-3 week taper where you reduce mileage but not intensity.

Try to lose weight if you are over racing weight. Eliminate junk, reduce alcohol, etc. first. If that doesn't work try intermittent fasting.

Your welcome.

not the op wrote:

Sounds like you've used the plan, meat tornado. His website mentions "it does not follow a strict 7-day cycle" - does that mean the long run isn't always on a weekend? Don't think I could squeeze in a LR on a weekday morning before work.

Sage- If you read this, it would be cool if you showed a sample week of the program looks like, just to get a feel. It seems like most other coaches do it (at least ones that use certain online platforms that seem to make it easy to show)

It's maybe not necessarily a strict "seven day" cycle, but it's written out week one through week 16 (seven day blocks)). Obviously, you can adjust the seven day period to fit your schedule, but the long runs always fall on day six or seven of the cycle (it's written Monday though Sunday, so the long runs always either fall on a Saturday or Sunday if that's how you're following a Monday through Sunday schedule). Week one has one workout (tempo run) and one long run (10-12 miles @ prescribed pace) (wk one mileage 38-48). The mid-range weeks often have two workouts (e.g., days three and five (Wednesday & Friday) with a long run on day seven (Sunday)) (I believe the longest run is 22 miles). The long runs are at a specified target pace or paces. Other weeks have one workout on day four (8x1,000 @ 10k pace) with a varied tempo mid-longish run on day seven. The shorter weeks are around 40ish miles and the longer weeks are closer to 80ish.

Again, I liked it bc I just plugged in my times and ran.

I like simple, so on the recommendation of a buddy, I also tried a sixteen week plan that involved a seven day cycle with two workouts devoted exclusively to mile reps, and one long run. The plan worked, but it was boring as hell. Horribly horribly boring.

I also agree with asdfsdfsd above, but I would rather use manufactured plans bc I'd prefer to not have to really think about anything other than where I'm going to run on a given day.