This is getting out of hand fast.
This is getting out of hand fast.
Tbf her times suggest that she was injecting herself with testosteron
dfa wrote:
Tbf her times suggest that she was injecting herself with testosteron
No...they don't. What are you talking about? Your "times" can't suggest you were using any specific performance aid or any performance aid at all. There's a higher threshold to meet than simply saying "X definitely used Y performance enhancing drug because look at how fast they ran!"
This entire thing is disturbing. A sub-elite male could easily self-identify as a female, never do any other marathons besides Boston, and win the women's race since there are no hormone requirements to meet. This sets a very dangerous precedent.
A 2:19 male runner can self-identify with no steps taken to reduce their testosterone levels and have their name forever etched in history as the Boston Marathon women's record holder..if not the world record holder for women.
This is what happens when self-respect dies in this country.
Maybe it's not that big of a deal afterall. Well, at least not for the spots that earn prize money.
however, I'm not sure if it would cause their time to not be recorded as an official women's marathon time if they break a record. Per the article.
When it comes to prize money, the association follows guidance set forth by the USA Track and Field, which adopted the International Olympic Committee’s policy regarding trans athletes, he said.
The policy states that its goal is to ensure trans athletes aren’t excluded from opportunity to participate while making sure it doesn't undermine requirements by anti-doping standards.
One of the transgenders entered to compete, Stevie Romer from the article:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155783533344343&set=picfp.584879342&type=3&theater
Is she single?
The problem is the arbitrary classifications that were created 100 years ago (women not being allowed to play against men).
There was a time when African Americans were not allowed to play in the NBA. That was crazy. Of course now the NBA is composed of 74% of African Americans (even though they only represent 12% of the US population).
Of course, a lot more caucasians would make the NBA if African Americans were no longer allowed to play, but that would be unfair.
The key take away here is that it's time to stop arbitrary segregation and allow women to compete equally against men. I think that the transgender movement will help this transition along.
We are in 2019, not 1919.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
This entire thing is disturbing. A sub-elite male could easily self-identify as a female, never do any other marathons besides Boston, and win the women's race since there are no hormone requirements to meet. This sets a very dangerous precedent.
A 2:19 male runner can self-identify with no steps taken to reduce their testosterone levels and have their name forever etched in history as the Boston Marathon women's record holder..if not the world record holder for women.
If prize money is involved a guy can't just show up and claim to be a woman:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/planettransgender.com/boston-marathon-transgender-policy/amp/SDSU Aztec wrote:
If prize money is involved a guy can't just show up and claim to be a woman:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/planettransgender.com/boston-marathon-transgender-policy/amp/
Not completely true. He can enter the race, possibly reducing the remaining quota spots for cisgender women. But he just can't win prize money unless he's followed the IOC guidelines for transgender athletes.
But he can show up and run as a woman with no additional steps as long as his government ID says female.
Too many leaders and politicians that are cowards to do what's right.
look at this st1te.
https://culturallyboundgender.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/bilde.jpg
SDSU Aztec wrote:
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
This entire thing is disturbing. A sub-elite male could easily self-identify as a female, never do any other marathons besides Boston, and win the women's race since there are no hormone requirements to meet. This sets a very dangerous precedent.
A 2:19 male runner can self-identify with no steps taken to reduce their testosterone levels and have their name forever etched in history as the Boston Marathon women's record holder..if not the world record holder for women.
If prize money is involved a guy can't just show up and claim to be a woman:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/planettransgender.com/boston-marathon-transgender-policy/amp/
In the end this could just put them in worse bind. Not paying someone who otherwise "earned" money should they get a $$$ place is worse optics then quietly just denying them a start spot.
Paula should be outraged, glad somebody with a high profile is saying it something.
As Tim Poole has pointed out recently, feminism is just a mop-up operation after the win; now what the regressive left is pushing is Intersectionality, which is a post-modern, nihilist construct. Running and track especially are right in the sights the authoritarians for targeted action.
Not forward lookimg wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
If prize money is involved a guy can't just show up and claim to be a woman:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/planettransgender.com/boston-marathon-transgender-policy/amp/In the end this could just put them in worse bind. Not paying someone who otherwise "earned" money should they get a $$$ place is worse optics then quietly just denying them a start spot.
Paula should be outraged, glad somebody with a high profile is saying it something.
No, they didn't "earn" the prize money. They broke the rules. Why would someone pretend to be a woman if they knew there was a 100% chance they would be disqualified?
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
One of the transgenders entered to compete, Stevie Romer from the article:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155783533344343&set=picfp.584879342&type=3&theater
Bollocks. Literally.
YMMV wrote:
As Tim Poole has pointed out recently, feminism is just a mop-up operation after the win; now what the regressive left is pushing is Intersectionality, which is a post-modern, nihilist construct. Running and track especially are right in the sights the authoritarians for targeted action.
It is ironic that intersectionality, which attributes all evils in society to the white male patriarchy, has transgenderism as its vanguard; many of whom are white males.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday