She posted that she just completed her highest mileage week ever at 73 miles. Seems mighty low for a top-10 at NCAA cross and multiple All-America honors. From what I read here it sounds like most NCAA runners are doing a lot more than that. What is the true "normal" for runners at the NCAA D1 level, men and women?
70 for Women and 80 for Men.
This isn't too insane for a female NCAA athlete. Most are running 60-70, and I haven't heard of any women doing more than 85-90. The men probably are more like 80ish, with a few topping out closer to 95-100. Murphy was a soccer player her first year or two of college so her training age is pretty young and she probably wasn't really able to build her mileage much until the last handful of years.
I believe there are a good amount of d1 guys doing 100+ mile weeks. Not all, like of course everyone has heard of justyn knight doing minimal mileage like 45, but I’m sure the 10k track guys hang around 100-120 for base building weeks. I would guess 1500 guys are anywhere from 40-85 and 5k guys for the most part are 80-120
Well of course it's mighty low...she started running in college
Alberto Salazar training log of him during NCAA XC season had him [b]averaging[/b] a hundred miles a week. There was a NAU training thread here last fall, some of them were doing 120 miles a week and some 80 miles a week according to some people on the thread. Too, it depends if she counts or doesn't count easy jogging to her weekly mileage.
fsdadsafdsaf wrote:
Murphy was a soccer player her first year or two of college so her training age is pretty young and she probably wasn't really able to build her mileage much until the last handful of years.
This so much.
Murphy was an absolute late bloomer. Her talent was incredible tho, in a physical education test she ran a 6:10 mile without ANY running training. All she had done to then was play competitive soccer. How many non-runner girls can run a 6:10 mile?
In her first year of running, she was the slowest runner by far on the team. She couldn't even finish the team's 80 min long runs, which would have been 4 miles longer than her longest run.
But she was stubborn and sticked to it, running more and more year after year, getting consistent improvements and now she is one of the best.
In college top guys are typically top mileage of 90-105, unless they're freshman/sophomore and already a top NCAA guy, then they might only be at 75-85 at the moment. Justyn Knight is an outlier where he was only like 50-70 through much of college because he didn't start running until late. The women are often 70-85. I would say 73 for her puts her below the average for the highest weekly mileage someone with her accomplishments has ever done. But if I had to bet on it, I'd bet she's done quite of cross-training over the years to supplement her relatively low volume of typically 50's and 60's per week.
From her blog:
"I ran about 45-50 miles/week my first two years of college running and by my last year of college I had reached a weekly maximum mileage of 65 miles/week during cross country. However, in my last track season this spring I averaged only 50-55 miles/week to accommodate the shorter 3k distance of the steeplechase. Since joining NAZ Elite I am proud to say I have run my first week over 70 miles (woohoo!) and am averaging about 65-70"
This gives us great hope for the future. She ran solid times in just 4 years of running on low mileage. There is plenty of room for her to go.
Wouldn't be surprised if she becomes faster than Katelyn Tuohy by Olympics 2024. Sure, Tuohy is currently slightly faster over the 5k, but she might burn out early (similar to Mary Cain), whereas Murphy keeps improving year after year.
Doesn't seem low to me. "Normal" is very relative, but I'd say for men upperclassmen usually run around 80-90, women maybe 60-70. Anything above that is what I'd call a high mileage runner, anything below is a low mileage runner.
73 is a prime number. It is not normal for your weekly mileage to be a prime number.
NCAA d 1 wrote:
Alberto Salazar training log of him during NCAA XC season had him averaging[/b] a hundred miles a week. There was a NAU training thread here last fall, some of them were doing 120 miles a week and some 80 miles a week according to some people on the thread. Too, it depends if she counts or doesn't count easy jogging to her weekly mileage.
How can so many dudes run over 100 miles a week, on pavement, and not get hurt?
confused on this wrote:
NCAA d 1 wrote:
Alberto Salazar training log of him during NCAA XC season had him averaging[/b] a hundred miles a week. There was a NAU training thread here last fall, some of them were doing 120 miles a week and some 80 miles a week according to some people on the thread. Too, it depends if she counts or doesn't count easy jogging to her weekly mileage.
How can so many dudes run over 100 miles a week, on pavement, and not get hurt?
From what I've read, the Japanese are high mileage and do all there runs on the Crete. Me personally, I've done 99% of my training on the Crete and I've never been injury prone.
when millennials get arrested, do they point their ass at the camera and stare dreamily into the distance for their mugshots?
#vanitynation
She's cute, so yea
Suck the TRUTH through a garden hose wrote:
when millennials get arrested, do they point their ass at the camera and stare dreamily into the distance for their mugshots?
#vanitynation
Agreed. Insufferable
probably in normal range-again there will always be outliers-it probably didn't hurt that she had a soccer background and ran less miles as a frosh, and importantly stayed relatively injury free and having a very good college career
on the lower end of the scale Justin Knight and on the opposite end McDougal from Liberty run 140 mile weeks in early 2000s-worked for him for a bit but predictably flamed out....some people do really well with fewer miles but quality work. Usually those are the talented ones!
confused on this wrote:
How can so many dudes run over 100 miles a week, on pavement, and not get hurt?
There is seriously only one trick but those who cannot do it don't (want to) believe that's all there is: You need to run slow enough.
Every healthy 20-50 year old can run (walk if necessary) 100 mpw if he/she goes slow enough. OK, and build it up slowly but people get the latter point. What they don't get is that they might have to slow down considerably to run more.
Suck the TRUTH through a garden hose wrote:
when millennials get arrested, do they point their ass at the camera and stare dreamily into the distance for their mugshots?
#vanitynation
They take their own mugshots on their smartassphones.
As ever, it all depends how you count your mileage. Do you include warmups and cool downs? Jogging between intervals? Some don't even count any easy second runs they do that day.
2 mile easy, 8x100 stride 100 jog recovery
16x400 200 jog recovery
2 mile easy
11 miles or 4? Or any number in between?