Just stumbled across a clip of the last lap of the Seville 1999 5,000m. Look at the first 4 times. All the Ethiopians were dropped. If any one has a better version of this race please post it here.
RANK FINAL TIME
Med 1.png Salah Hissou (MAR) 12:58.13 (CR)
Med 2.png Benjamin Limo (KEN) 12:58.72
Med 3.png Mohammed Mourhit (BEL) 12:58.80
4. Brahim Lahlafi (MAR) 12:59.09
5. Daniel Komen (KEN) 13:04.71
A certain other Moroccan ran 3:27 to win the 1500m too.
What a close from Limo. Impressive.
Nxjdk wrote:
What a close from Limo. Impressive.
Yes, and Lahlafi faded badly in the last 50m.
Thr good old days.
How many of those guys got busted later on? Hissou sure did, didn't he?
Subway Surfers wrote:
Just stumbled across a clip of the last lap of the Seville 1999 5,000m. Look at the first 4 times. All the Ethiopians were dropped. If any one has a better version of this race please post it here.
RANK FINAL TIME
Med 1.png Salah Hissou (MAR) 12:58.13 (CR)
Med 2.png Benjamin Limo (KEN) 12:58.72
Med 3.png Mohammed Mourhit (BEL) 12:58.80
4. Brahim Lahlafi (MAR) 12:59.09
5. Daniel Komen (KEN) 13:04.71
https://youtu.be/9_vHh_g-fbAA certain other Moroccan ran 3:27 to win the 1500m too.
I often wonder what the GDR would have produced if they had survived in to the EPO era.
Similar types and similar times to El G and the Moroccan 5000m guys I would imagine
Subway Surfers wrote:
A certain other Moroccan ran 3:27 to win the 1500m too.
Is that the one where El G was clearly paced by one of his teammates with no attempt to even hide it?
Wasn't enough for El G to put the world record out of sight for clean runners for decades (or even microdosing Kenyans), but he had to cheat double to make sure that the best championship time would be his for maybe 50 years too.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Just stumbled across a clip of the last lap of the Seville 1999 5,000m. Look at the first 4 times. All the Ethiopians were dropped. If any one has a better version of this race please post it here
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A certain other Moroccan ran 3:27 to win the 1500m too.
You guys really have nothing better to do now that your predictions of many Kenyans being busted didn't materialize.
Coevett wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
A certain other Moroccan ran 3:27 to win the 1500m too.
Is that the one where El G was clearly paced by one of his teammates with no attempt to even hide it?
Wasn't enough for El G to put the world record out of sight for clean runners for decades (or even microdosing Kenyans), but he had to cheat double to make sure that the best championship time would be his for maybe 50 years too.
Do you also complain about Bannister being paced by TWO teammates on the way to the first sub 4 minute mile?
Mourhit got busted for EPO in 2002.
Back In The USSR wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Just stumbled across a clip of the last lap of the Seville 1999 5,000m. Look at the first 4 times. All the Ethiopians were dropped. If any one has a better version of this race please post it here.
RANK FINAL TIME
Med 1.png Salah Hissou (MAR) 12:58.13 (CR)
Med 2.png Benjamin Limo (KEN) 12:58.72
Med 3.png Mohammed Mourhit (BEL) 12:58.80
4. Brahim Lahlafi (MAR) 12:59.09
5. Daniel Komen (KEN) 13:04.71
https://youtu.be/9_vHh_g-fbAA certain other Moroccan ran 3:27 to win the 1500m too.
I often wonder what the GDR would have produced if they had survived in to the EPO era.
Similar types and similar times to El G and the Moroccan 5000m guys I would imagine
At least 12:54 probably faster, we all know that those East Germans ran an efficient system.
Coevett wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
A certain other Moroccan ran 3:27 to win the 1500m too.
Is that the one where El G was clearly paced by one of his teammates with no attempt to even hide it?
Wasn't enough for El G to put the world record out of sight for clean runners for decades (or even microdosing Kenyans), but he had to cheat double to make sure that the best championship time would be his for maybe 50 years too.
Someone can post the clip but if I can recall correctly Brendan Foster went "oh no" as soon as the pacer went to the front on the 1st lap. Didn't that guy (the pacer) get busted?
yyy wrote:
Mourhit got busted for EPO in 2002.
He looked pretty comfortable in that race, out for a tempo run @12:58 pace.
Benenisa Kekele wrote:
You guys really have nothing better to do now that your predictions of many Kenyans being busted didn't materialize.
As history showed over and over again, athletes adjust their doping to deal with enhanced testing (e.g. using smaller dosages, changing from EPO to blood transfusions, installing a quiet doorbell, changing training location, focusing on roids potentially found in meat, ...). No surprise there.
casual obsever wrote:
Benenisa Kekele wrote:
You guys really have nothing better to do now that your predictions of many Kenyans being busted didn't materialize.
As history showed over and over again, athletes adjust their doping to deal with enhanced testing (e.g. using smaller dosages, changing from EPO to blood transfusions, installing a quiet doorbell, changing training location, focusing on roids potentially found in meat, ...). No surprise there.
lol
Subway Surfers wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Is that the one where El G was clearly paced by one of his teammates with no attempt to even hide it?
Wasn't enough for El G to put the world record out of sight for clean runners for decades (or even microdosing Kenyans), but he had to cheat double to make sure that the best championship time would be his for maybe 50 years too.
Someone can post the clip but if I can recall correctly Brendan Foster went "oh no" as soon as the pacer went to the front on the 1st lap. Didn't that guy (the pacer) get busted?
I couldn't find the clip with Foster but found the NBC feed with Tom Hammond (who always gets excited when calling a race with El G).
Man!...did El G smoke this field...what happened to head-twisting Cacho? It's been while since I watched this race but I remember it back in 99. Btw, El G's pacer was Adil Kaouch - busted for EPO OOC several years later (2007).
https://youtu.be/UVzdFUMQN6MYou can still smell the EPO from here.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Is that the one where El G was clearly paced by one of his teammates with no attempt to even hide it?
Someone can post the clip but if I can recall correctly Brendan Foster went "oh no" as soon as the pacer went to the front on the 1st lap. Didn't that guy (the pacer) get busted?
Here is the Foster/Cram commentary - it was actually Crammy who called out the pacemaker. Check out the commentators below the video accusing him of being jealous of El G. Actually, Cram has always been very respectful about El G (and Morceli). Don't know if he genuinely thought they were clean, or maybe he presumed their innocence until Ramzi started to make it all too obvious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6jrqsbD3PcAnd here's a Brucie Bonus for you all - Cram Vs Aouita Vs Morceli Vs Rono Vs Gonzalez Vs Herold Vs Tanui - Five Olympic champions and/or world record holders in the same race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pmooY0kb2wArmstronglivs wrote:
You can still smell the EPO from here.
That must have been one of the dirtiest finals of all time.
Wrongkowski wrote:
How many of those guys got busted later on? Hissou sure did, didn't he?
No.
totorious wrote:
Wrongkowski wrote:
How many of those guys got busted later on? Hissou sure did, didn't he?
No.
He did an El G - retired as soon as proper testing came in. Or at least moved to the roads for a couple of years and then retired.