This comes up from time to time on these boards. There once was a time when there were some decently fast runners in the Army. In the 22 years I was on active duty I did run into some guys that grossly exaggerated their running ability. However, I have also been stationed with some pretty fast folks as well. In the 90s, Fort Sam Houston was home to the Military Pentathlon Team. There were plenty of fast guys and we had some really good training runs. I knew I was around some fast military guys when I ran a local 5k that had a Military Division. I ran around 15:20 and not only did I not place in the military division, I didn't place in my age group, (San Antonio had some pretty fast runners at the time as well). In 1995 Fort Sam Houston sent two men's teams to the Army Ten Miler, I managed to get on the A team, I was the 4th guy on the team and I ran 53:30 I believe. As a team we were second, (Fort Campbell beat us that year) However, our B team placed 5th or 6th. Different times in the 90s, while there was WCAP at the time, it wasn't filled with Kenyan runners as it is now. I've attached the thread from 2003...some interesting stuff there, including my story of meeting a guy named Cameron Copher, who was from Washington.