Choose a distance. Any distance.
You wear a pair of fancy shmancy race flats.
Eliud wears super heavy timberland boots.
What distance could you beat him at?
Choose a distance. Any distance.
You wear a pair of fancy shmancy race flats.
Eliud wears super heavy timberland boots.
What distance could you beat him at?
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what does eastbay list the weight of Timb's at...
Yeah seriously not sure I could beat him in any. Maybe a 200 if I'm going to pick any but it's unlikely. Is it conceivable that Kipchoge couldn't run a 200 in 24/25 in Timberlands? A 400 is really stretching disbelief. He is easily in sub-1:50 shape, and my 400 PR is a blazing 54. I don't think his 400m time right now is much if at all above 50 and don't think Timbs would add more than 4 seconds.
https://www.runnersworld.com/gear/a20822339/how-much-do-heavy-shoes-slow-you-down/
Seems like shoe weight slows you down less the faster you are running (most likely how close you are to a sprint, not in absolute terms). Timbs weigh what, 3 lbs? About 1300 grams versus 150-200 grams. With 1.11%/100 g slow-down (reduction in economy but whatever I'm not going to pretend to do a anything like a rigorous calculation) at 7:40/mi vs .78%/100g at 5:36 mile, say we are at 3:20/mile (Kipchoge possible 400m time) and the slow-down might be in the ballpark of .4%/100g if we say the relationship is linear, which it's probably (almost definitely) NOT. Who cares. Okay so I'll say like .2% per 100g. This is TERRIBLE MATH AND AN UNFOUNDED ASSUMPTION BUT I DON'T CARE! 1300-200 grams = 11 (100s of grams) * .2% = 2.2%. 2.2% of 50 is 1.1 seconds. This is leading me to believe Kipchoge would run in the range of 50-53 and I'd still lose.
There, taking a model that works for relatively light shoes, not freaking Timberlands, I did some terrible analysis with terrible assumptions and an utter lack of rigor. Just wanted to convince myself with a shred of quantitative basis that I'd lose. This is a waste of online space and my time goodbye.
OP is simply copying a previous thread by a more clever poster.
celery wrote:
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Correct answer is still....none.
Kipchoge could not even run a 5:20 mile in a pair of timberlands. Neither could anyone else in history.
Jason Mason wrote:
Kipchoge could not even run a 5:20 mile in a pair of timberlands. Neither could anyone else in history.
Wow are you stupid. Any 430 miler could...
E. Kipchoge is no longer in sub-25 200m condition even with his choice of shoes due to his Marathon training and age. Give me three months then 60m, 100m, & 200m.
240 miles
teefurtree wrote:
Yeah seriously not sure I could beat him in any. Maybe a 200 if I'm going to pick any but it's unlikely. Is it conceivable that Kipchoge couldn't run a 200 in 24/25 in Timberlands? A 400 is really stretching disbelief. He is easily in sub-1:50 shape, and my 400 PR is a blazing 54. I don't think his 400m time right now is much if at all above 50 and don't think Timbs would add more than 4 seconds.
I love Eliud just as much as the next running nerd, but there is 0% chance he could run sub-1:50 or sub :50 right now without months of specific training. Slow twitch vs fast twitch.
Remember when Hall ran an all-out mile during marathon training? Pretty sure he ran 4:17ish.
Come on guys. Kipchoge wearing Timberlands would be as restrictive as nailing his feet to a boardwalk. He probably wouldn't be able to take a step.