So Many Hate On Alabama For Their Foreign Runners, But Why Not The Same Regard for New Mexico?

NAU should be able to recruit from anywhere in the US like CU does, too. I don't get why they continue to pull so heavily from foreign talent, I'm just not a fan and I'd like to root for a small school like NAU.

We should hate them too. There is no reason why an American University should give a foreign athlete money to come here. Track and Field is the most popular sport participation-wise in high school.

If they foreign athlete is really good? Ok. Let their country develop them.

They’ve received plenty of hate, but if you’re trying to call this board racist, just come out and say it. It’s a pretty well established fact.

Put down your juice box young person. White people in Alabama do not like black people on the campus of University of Alabama. Walk up to blacks in Alabama over age seventy. They will tell you the entire story, Weeks ago many outraged white posters from state of Alabama. Those same posters would have been equally outraged with a XC team of US black athletes.

Am I an Alabama resident? No. Have I been to Alabama? Yes. Numerous times. Have I been on University of Alabama campus? Yes. Numerous times.

Hello grammar school child wrote:

Put down your juice box young person. White people in Alabama do not like black people on the campus of University of Alabama. Walk up to blacks in Alabama over age seventy. They will tell you the entire story, Weeks ago many outraged white posters from state of Alabama. Those same posters would have been equally outraged with a XC team of US black athletes.

Am I an Alabama resident? No. Have I been to Alabama? Yes. Numerous times. Have I been on University of Alabama campus? Yes. Numerous times.

My son goes there now and is a junior. Not sure what in God's name you are talking about. I've been there as well and haven't experienced what you are claiming.

Where was she born?

Why was my post removed about Kelati being an American High schooler?

Alabama BS wrote:

We should hate them too. There is no reason why an American University should give a foreign athlete money to come here. Track and Field is the most popular sport participation-wise in high school.

If they foreign athlete is really good? Ok. Let their country develop them.

I strongly agree. NCAA should ban scholarships to internationals. The track meets will still be entertaining, there will still be close meets and crazy finishes. A national champion will still be crowned.

We don't need them in the NCAA and they are taking money and scholarships away from Americans.

America and Americans first!

Maybe I'm being optimistic here, but I refuse to believe that THAT many people who post on here feel this way. I'm sure some completely believe that we should live on a completely cut-off, secluded country where we're that self-absorbed, but most realize that protectionism in any manner is never the answer (and let's be real when you want to insulate the NCAA from international athletes that's what you're doing).

Hey if OTHER countries want to pay international tuition for their athletes to come develop in our NCAA system we should let them. What we're talking about is allowing the privilege and opportunity in the American taxpayer funded collegiate system to be gamed by coaches who can't sell their programs to Americans as they exist right under their noses. Instead, they go find equally desperate and opportunistic foreigners who will jump at it sight unseen. Nobody said keep them out, we are saying US athletic scholarships should go to US athletes who were born and grew up here. If coaches want foreign athletes, sure fine but that tab should be paid by a source originating in that athlete's home country.

Taxes. Do. Not. Fund. Athletic. Scholarships.

How many times does this have to be said?

Sigh.... wrote:

Taxes. Do. Not. Fund. Athletic. Scholarships.

How many times does this have to be said?

A lot, because public funding certainly does bolster DI athletics.

Alabama and New Mexico have been mentioned in this thread. While Alabama athletics generates so much capitol they actually put some back into the school that is the exception. Most Division I athletics programs rely on state funding. Every school sets things up differently, but few DI programs generate more than they spend and most do not make up the difference via tuition.

New Mexico athletics has state sponsored support.

With that said, I am not not opposed to foreign athletes in the NCAA. I would also not be opposed to a foreign scholarship cap. For legal reason this probably won't happen.

Sigh.... wrote:

Taxes. Do. Not. Fund. Athletic. Scholarships.

How many times does this have to be said?

It doesn't matter how many time you say it......it's still wrong.

What are you even talking about? I hope you're not trying to say football pays for all of them because that's not the case. Most D1 football programs spend almost everything they bring in, and I highly doubt D2 and D3 football is paying the bills either.

New Mexico is different -- it's already foreign. It says so right there in its name. So they can be all foreign. Alabama is in the USA.

Moreover, Coach Saban is not happy.

Foreign athlete scholarship cap of 25%

Pros and cons of the entire debate would be solved.

Benefits/costs debate would be solved.

I think it is great that students and student athletes want to come and are able to come to US universities. The benefits for everyone are fantastic. That kind of exchange helps to ensure our country’s success. And yes, I feel the benefits should be greatest felt by the US students, and US student athletes.

What I don’t agree with is when some athletic programs (and those programs have been discussed numerous times) build their programs entirely or by majority on foreign athletes. Sure those programs have US athletes rostered but the bulk of scholarship monies (if not all) go to the foreign athletes that make up the varsity squad. An even bigger rub is when the head coach is from outside the US and recruits internationally, and overwhelmingly fills his roster of top talented athletes from the country of his origin. Another rub is when a head coach makes up lame excuses for having to recruit foreign athletes due to time constraints.

Sigh.... wrote:

Taxes. Do. Not. Fund. Athletic. Scholarships.

How many times does this have to be said?

Of course they do. This is complete nonsense.

back woods wrote:

Sigh.... wrote:

Taxes. Do. Not. Fund. Athletic. Scholarships.

How many times does this have to be said?

Of course they do. This is complete nonsense.

Explain, please, how this works. Show detailed examples of where funding comes from for athletic scholarships. I will wait for your answer.

Sigh.... wrote:

Taxes. Do. Not. Fund. Athletic. Scholarships.

How many times does this have to be said?

Actually, the reason that New Mexico had to cut it's ski team and make cuts elsewhere is because taxpayers WERE having to bail out their athletic programs. Maybe if you say a lie enough times it will eventually become true. The only reason Alabama's tax payers don't have to fund their program is because of the Alabama football program.

State your case, counselor wrote:

back woods wrote:

Of course they do. This is complete nonsense.

Explain, please, how this works. Show detailed examples of where funding comes from for athletic scholarships. I will wait for your answer.

State schools are publically funded. The school pays for the scholarship, thus the public pays for the scholarship.

how do YOU think it works?

and to save you the trouble, the vast majority of schools barely make enough profit off their football team to fund ONE other sport, let alone all of them.

Alabama football revenue: $ 123,769,841

Alabama football expenses: $ $123,370,004

profit $399, 837

total athletic teams at Alabama: 22

football $profit available per athletic team: $18, 174

instate tuition: $10,170

out-of-state tuition: $25, 950

so football profit covers 3/4 of one out-of-state scholarship per team.

who pays for the rest?