Yes it is much more difficult to get into Stanford but after you are there you are guaranteed to receive at least a B in your classes. At Oregon, you can actually receive failing grades. Don't be lulled into the hype that the highly selectives have created. Did you attend one of these schools or meet someone who did? Many of the 3.5 GPA graduates of Stanford can barely function in the real world.
Midbest - I am constantly surprised by people who enroll in Phd programs without a tuition waiver/fellowship and healthy stipend and so on. My brother, an accomplished Econ Phd, counsels young people not to pay for Phd programs and he is often ignored. It all depends on making good judgments, both before and after graduate school.
You mention MD/DO programs in the US. Yes, a good choice, but if one goes to an expensive private medical school with jaw shattering loans thereafter, that graduate must be willing to live for quite some time not like a physician, but rather like a young beginning white collar worker so as to knock out debt.
And some grad programs are toxic. Many law schools and MBA programs fit this bill (with the upper tier schools still offering opportunity).
We aren't as a general population yet geared toward really looking into the value proposition of education.
Although completely anecdotal, a young friend of mine just enrolled in a 5 year program at Va Tech to get both a BS and MS in Econ in 5 years. It is an honors program, and in-state tuition at Va Tech is cheap, especially with the tuition discounts the school gave him. This kind of thing makes much more sense than a non-focused stint at Georgetown or Duke (obviously great schools). I applaud his decision.
Did you go to Stanford? Then 10/10, because I wouldn't want to burst your bubble.
Oregon might be better at "acaxemics". However, Stanford is a better school at just about everything else. Especially at Academics.
Do Not Even wrote:
Some of you folks sure do worry about "libs" a lot.
rightfully so
F Stanford they needed the Pac 12 refs to fix the game versus Oregon this year to beat the Ducks Oregon owns Stanford in pretty much every sport that they both do minus what Soccer and Tennis and Baseball honestly who cares about any of the sports not me. GO DUCKS
Sammy the cow wrote:
Stanford seems to have a better athletic program but Oregon seems to have the edge in acaxemics.
What is darker, Black? or White?
I will let you in to this one
It is all the same school
Some kids get placed on PROBATION
They are told to "Get Yer grade up Or Yer Gone"
Well, some meth aficionados lost some jaw control and all that above morphed into Oregon
but it is just a 'special' club part of Stanford
woof woof! wrote:
Moran Mocker wrote:
Is their a error in they’re?
Spoken like a true Duck!
Yeah write! I didn't here anything.
Stanford maybe wrote:
Tougher entrance at Stanford but they refuse to fail any students so Oregon may actually be a tougher school to get a degree from.
Obviously it's possible someone could be very clever and successful at high school (capable of gaining admission to Stanford) but decide to go to Oregon, then just be really lazy and fail.
But aside from such transformations, doesn't it seem likely that Stanford is tougher? (i.e. admission to Stanford is as tough as getting a degree, so the possibility of failure isn't relevant as nobody who could go to Stanford would fail at Oregon, aside from unusual personal circumstances).
JoeRoganSuperFan wrote:
Stanford has been totally infested with the libs...... Soon will be a NO GO Sharia law area totally taken over by ISIS. Already VERY unsafe for whites to travel (see Brock Turner witch hunt).
I would absolutely say UO has better academics. At least they will teach you a useful trade (like welding) instead of the gendered (sexist) studies at Stanford.
Yes, ISIS are actually just extremely liberal. Throwing people off the roof and taking away their rights are the logical conclusion of demanding rights.
Stanford was voted the best combination of athletics and academics by Sports Illustrated a couple years ago
Nigel_Bikes wrote:
Really? You have to even ask this question? Stanford is waaaaaaay above Oregon in academics and athletics.
yeah but acaxemics? Where does it rank?
I don't think there is such thing as a "better school" because there is something for everyone at any school. For example, Oregon has the number one Landscape Architecture program in the country. So if you are looking for that, Oregon would be your place. I applied for that program and got in, but because it is a state school and I am from Florida, I didn't get much financial aid (got $10,000 out of $40,000). I also applied to Stanford but didn't get in (likely because I didn't get a 1500+ SAT).
Here's the thing. College is pretty much the same at all schools in terms of academic rigor. Obviously Harvard Law is going to differ from Arizona State, but a lot of the same things are learned at most large universities. The main difference is the type of people and culture. Having a high 1500 SAT says something about a kid. They are obviously going to be more disciplined and conscientious than a kid with a 1000 SAT. Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of that stuff matters, but the culture at a Stanford is much different than at a Oregon.
Stanford is in my opinion the best University in the WORLD. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Phil Knight, and so many more billionaires come from Stanford. It simply has the most resources and is located in a very special place (silicon valley). There is a reason why Grant Fisher, a kid with a 34 ACT, is struggling at Stanford.
So the short answer is that Stanford is "technically" the better school, but it really is up to the individual. I obviously would rather go to Oregon for the Landscape Architecture program.
Sammy the cow wrote:
Stanford seems to have a better athletic program but Oregon seems to have the edge in acaxemics.
8/10.
The cretins on this thread are seemingly foaming at the mouth in their giddiness to answer the OP's lure. Incredible, in 2018, to watch this level of folly and stupidity.
Sanford like al of the highly selectives wrote:
Yes it is much more difficult to get into Stanford but after you are there you are guaranteed to receive at least a B in your classes. At Oregon, you can actually receive failing grades. Don't be lulled into the hype that the highly selectives have created. Did you attend one of these schools or meet someone who did? Many of the 3.5 GPA graduates of Stanford can barely function in the real world.
This post is complete and utter nonsense.
Ask yourself this question:
If given the choice, and guaranteed automatic acceptance, where would you go? Then ask yourself why.
... The end.
Lets cut the B.S. Which campus has the hottest co-eds and Craziest parties?
codaayyee wrote:
I don't think there is such thing as a "better school" because there is something for everyone at any school. For example, Oregon has the number one Landscape Architecture program in the country. So if you are looking for that, Oregon would be your place. I applied for that program and got in, but because it is a state school and I am from Florida, I didn't get much financial aid (got $10,000 out of $40,000). I also applied to Stanford but didn't get in (likely because I didn't get a 1500+ SAT).
Here's the thing. College is pretty much the same at all schools in terms of academic rigor. Obviously Harvard Law is going to differ from Arizona State, but a lot of the same things are learned at most large universities. The main difference is the type of people and culture. Having a high 1500 SAT says something about a kid. They are obviously going to be more disciplined and conscientious than a kid with a 1000 SAT. Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of that stuff matters, but the culture at a Stanford is much different than at a Oregon.
Stanford is in my opinion the best University in the WORLD. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Phil Knight, and so many more billionaires come from Stanford. It simply has the most resources and is located in a very special place (silicon valley). There is a reason why Grant Fisher, a kid with a 34 ACT, is struggling at Stanford.
So the short answer is that Stanford is "technically" the better school, but it really is up to the individual. I obviously would rather go to Oregon for the Landscape Architecture program.
Grant Fisher is not struggling at Stanford - he is excelling. In the recent Letsrun article, he mentioned that he had 25 hrs of lab on top of classes and training/racing. Tough indeed to balance. However, he has won two XC NCAA scholar athlete of the year awards and one for track.
That’s not struggling, that is getting it done and excelling in a highly competing environment.
Not easy, and not for everyone.
My son was accepted to Stanford but declined because he would have had to pay full fare. So the answer to your question is Oregon for some of us. At the same price, he would have chosen Stanford.
codaayyee wrote:
College is pretty much the same at all schools in terms of academic rigor.
This is not even remotely true.