Gwen Jorgensens surprised a lot of people by saying goodbye to the triathlon last year and saying she wanted to win Olympicc gold in the marathon in 2020.
Sunday in Chicago she runs her first marathon since that announcement.
We've got up 5 questions with Gwen before Chicago below. She told us her goal still is to win another Olympic gold.
But short term what do you think would be a good run for her? Do you think she can be the first American?
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2018/10/5-questions-olympic-champ-gwen-jorgesnsen-chicago-marathon/
What's a successful run for Gwen Jorgensen on Sunday in Chicago?
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I think since she has the marathon shuffle down she should brake 2:30 for the marathon this Sunday.
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Not getting beat by Sarah Sellers or Alexi Pappas. Beating Allie is a +1.
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2:27-2:28
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To DNS, and just go away.
Leave real running to real runners.
Yeah, I said it. God Damit.
peace. -
Scorpion_runner wrote:
To DNS, and just go away.
Leave real running to real runners.
Yeah, I said it. God Damit.
peace.
And your 5k, 10k and half marathon prs are? -
Ezekiel bread wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
To DNS, and just go away.
Leave real running to real runners.
Yeah, I said it. God Damit.
peace.
And your 5k, 10k and half marathon prs are?
This is not about me, son. This is about maintaining the purity of our sport. I'm not the one pretending to be elite, and stating that I am going after the gold in the marathon in 1 in a half years. -
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Ezekiel bread wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
To DNS, and just go away.
Leave real running to real runners.
Yeah, I said it. God Damit.
peace.
And your 5k, 10k and half marathon prs are?
This is not about me, son. This is about maintaining the purity of our sport. I'm not the one pretending to be elite, and stating that I am going after the gold in the marathon in 1 in a half years.
Purity of the sport? Running is simple. You start there and finish there with your feet. And she's doing that. And currently she is one of the top US female distance runners.
Pretending to be elite? Well she is elite. I sense you are just jealous.
Gold in the marathon? It's called aiming high. -
Ezekiel bread wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Ezekiel bread wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
To DNS, and just go away.
Leave real running to real runners.
Yeah, I said it. God Damit.
peace.
And your 5k, 10k and half marathon prs are?
This is not about me, son. This is about maintaining the purity of our sport. I'm not the one pretending to be elite, and stating that I am going after the gold in the marathon in 1 in a half years.
Purity of the sport? Running is simple. You start there and finish there with your feet. And she's doing that. And currently she is one of the top US female distance runners.
Pretending to be elite? Well she is elite. I sense you are just jealous.
Gold in the marathon? It's called aiming high.
Naw, that was a huge Dis to the the top elite runners who have given blood, sweat and tears over the years to be great. Sorry, can't root for it.
aiming high by saying you will be ready for GOLD in under 2 years , at a distance and racing level that you have no experience?
Hell, she's not even top 8 in america.
Jordan Hasay
Shalane
Cragg
Huddle
Linden
Hall
Kellyn Taylor
Laura Thweatt
Stephanie Bruce
Only person I see her beating is Laura, but we will find out Sunday. -
Allie is running NYC not Chicago
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BQ
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2:25-2:27 would be successful for her. 2:32+ would be dramatically less awesome.
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as a coach I admire athletes with clear goals, and also with the courage and determination to pursue them.
usually, these goals are kept private or shared only with the coach and a few carefully chosen friends and family. I think it both curious and brave of her to have made hers so well known and so clear and definite. it's an odd choice.
to answer the OP's question, my understanding is that to qualify for the OT marathon all she has to do is run sub 2:37. last year, 397 women went sub 2:37 in the marathon, which suggests to me that, considering she is already an Olympic champion, and that she is aiming to be an Olympic champion again, her immediate target of 2:37 is, or at least should be, relatively soft. as per the USATF regulations, she has until 19 Jan 2020 to achieve the standard. common sense would suggest that as long as she has her qualifying time by around April 2019 then she will have plenty of time to come down, and then prep for the trials in Jan - Feb 2020. her goal this weekend is therefore to qualify for the trials. anything more than that is a bonus.
however, she didn't need to go run some big-name fancy marathon with loads of public relations and media visibility, all she needed to do was go to some low-key local marathon with a USATF certified record eligible course and churn out a 2:35. but then low-key and Gwen Jorgensen do not very often appear in the same sentence together so it was pretty much a given that she would debut in the full glare of the media and public spotlight. hence, Chicago. another odd choice.
obviously, to make the team she will have to run considerably faster than 2:37, but how much faster is an important question. six months ago Jordan Hasay was in that conversation and I think it interesting to consider whether she still is, and whether she will be again come next October.
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Scorpion_runner wrote:
Naw, that was a huge Dis to the the top elite runners who have given blood, sweat and tears over the years to be great. Sorry, can't root for it.
Sounds like nonsense. It’s a sport.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
aiming high by saying you will be ready for GOLD in under 2 years , at a distance and racing level that you have no experience?
She already has more experience than your entire career in what, a year? You have no reference, hobby jogger.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Hell, she's not even top 8 in america.
Jordan Hasay
Shalane
Cragg
Huddle
Linden
Hall
Kellyn Taylor
Laura Thweatt
Stephanie Bruce
Only person I see her beating is Laura, but we will find out Sunday.
Well she already beat Hasay, who btw is not better than Gwen anymore considering she’s toast.
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The answer is 2:31
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Gwen let her legs do the talking before her mouth. She ran 53-low on a very hard 10-mile course, beating Hall and finishing a few ticks behind Aliphine. That automatically puts her on a short list of contenders to make the US team. And keep in mind she did that while she was still a triathlete. Making the team isn't an audacious goal; anything less would be a disappointment for someone with her PROVEN ability.
As for saying her goal is gold and not just to make the team, I actually don't think that's a meaningful distinction. When you consider how good the American women are at the moment, the limited number of Kenyans and Ethiopians that get to compete at the Olympics, and the crapshoot effects of hot weather championship racing, then it makes sense to think that any American who makes the team should have at least an outside shot at winning.
So what this comes down to is not her goal (which is perfectly rational), but her decision to announce it publicly. I frankly think that the criticism here mostly comes down to sexism. Male athletes are adored because of their audacious trash talk, but when a female athlete simply announces her goals, people say she needs to learn her place. -
I think she will go out in 1:12 and end up 2:25-2:26. That would put her in a good spot at this point.
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I think her minimum goal should be an OTQ. A good run will be anything under 2:30.
Running fast 10k’s, 10 milers, and 1/2 marathons is great, but it’s difficult to extrapolate an accurate marathon prediction based on those race results alone. Especially when this is her first marathon go around.
To Gwen I say aim high, but don’t get down if your results aren’t as good as you hoped. There’s plenty of marathons ahead of you to tear up. -
Your second poster on this thread was about right. Sub 2:30 would be a pretty good debut. 2:28 or under outstanding, 2:30-2:32 okay, but at the latter times or slower/dnf the letsrun hyenas will be out.
You have to laugh at the letsrun hyenas, they're soooo dumb! -
Beyond expectations: 2:22 and top 5
Acceptable: 2:27
Back to the drawing board: 2:32
