Just heard that Ultrarunner Podcast's Eric Schranz claimed that Kipchoge would not be able to break Bruce Fordyce's 50 mile work record (4h 50min, 5:48/mile...). Kipchoge could run a 4:2x 50 mile easy. Even Jim Walmsley who is far from an elite marathoner could probably break the 50 mile WR if he really tried.
Are ultrarunners really this dellusional to what kind of talent and ability someone like Kipchoge/Bekele has?
Which episode? I believe you but man I have to hear that myself. The idea that kipchoge couldn’t string together 2-2:25 marathons is silly.
Delusional ultrarunners? wrote:
Just heard that Ultrarunner Podcast's Eric Schranz claimed that Kipchoge would not be able to break Bruce Fordyce's 50 mile work record (4h 50min, 5:48/mile...). Kipchoge could run a 4:2x 50 mile easy. Even Jim Walmsley who is far from an elite marathoner could probably break the 50 mile WR if he really tried.
Are ultrarunners really this dellusional to what kind of talent and ability someone like Kipchoge/Bekele has?
Kipchoge could not run 4:2x pace for 50 miles.
5:2x??
Surely this is a typo but it’s hard to tell these days.
SRMartin wrote:
Which episode? I believe you but man I have to hear that myself. The idea that kipchoge couldn’t string together 2-2:25 marathons is silly.
It was the URP Daily podcast that got released to everyone yesterday. Usually they are for patron people but this one got sent to everyone subscribed on iTunes.
Apophis99 wrote:
Delusional ultrarunners? wrote:
Just heard that Ultrarunner Podcast's Eric Schranz claimed that Kipchoge would not be able to break Bruce Fordyce's 50 mile work record (4h 50min, 5:48/mile...). Kipchoge could run a 4:2x 50 mile easy. Even Jim Walmsley who is far from an elite marathoner could probably break the 50 mile WR if he really tried.
Are ultrarunners really this dellusional to what kind of talent and ability someone like Kipchoge/Bekele has?
Kipchoge could not run 4:2x pace for 50 miles.
5:2x??
Surely this is a typo but it’s hard to tell these days.
No, 4:2x total 50 mile. As in 4h 2x minutes.
Oh please, that record would be DESTROYED if a faster elite took a serious go at it. I love some of the ultramarathon guys, but that WR, on a flat course, we would go down by probably another 10 minutes.
Heck the AR is held by a guy who was "only" a 2:18 marathoner....and he ran 4:51...
Fordyce's record is only a minute faster than that....
That's silly. Of course Kipchoge would obliterate that record. He gets to slow down almost a minute and a half per mile from his marathon pace and would still smash it.
Delusional ultrarunners? wrote:
Are ultrarunners really this dellusional to what kind of talent and ability someone like Kipchoge/Bekele has?
No, some letrun posters are delusional what Marathoners can do on ultradistances.
Some might pull it off like Alberto Salazar did but he only did it once I believe.
Delusional Ultrarunners? wrote:
Apophis99 wrote:
Kipchoge could not run 4:2x pace for 50 miles.
5:2x??
Surely this is a typo but it’s hard to tell these days.
No, 4:2x total 50 mile. As in 4h 2x minutes.
Got it. Hours overall not pace in minutes.
Forest Gump again wrote:
Delusional ultrarunners? wrote:
Are ultrarunners really this dellusional to what kind of talent and ability someone like Kipchoge/Bekele has?
No, some letrun posters are delusional what Marathoners can do on ultradistances.
Some might pull it off like Alberto Salazar did but he only did it once I believe.
I would agree if we were talking about a 100 miler or 200 miler, but we're only talking about a 50 miler.
So he didn’t say Fordyce is better than Kipchoge? Just that Kipchoge couldn’t break the record?
Kipchoge can't break the 50 mile world record because Kipchoge doesn't train for 50 mile races.
If he trained for it, he would likely obliterate it, but he'll never train for it because there is no real money in bullsh!t circus events.
Hence Kipchoge can't break that dude's record. That doesn't mean that other guy is a better runner than Kipchoge.
Ten years from now when Kipchoge is completely burned out and semi-retired, he might run the times Fordyce did. If Kipchoge were to switch to ultras now, he would absolutely demolish everything and everyone. He'd probably destroy the sport.
compreezy wrote:
So he didn’t say Fordyce is better than Kipchoge? Just that Kipchoge couldn’t break the record?
Correct, that was a bit of a click bait title on my part. Better at 50 miles. He rambled on about some other stuff relating to 50Ks too which is essentially a marathon...
Kipchoge couldn't break it wrote:
Kipchoge can't break the 50 mile world record because Kipchoge doesn't train for 50 mile races.
If he trained for it, he would likely obliterate it, but he'll never train for it because there is no real money in bullsh!t circus events.
Hence Kipchoge can't break that dude's record. That doesn't mean that other guy is a better runner than Kipchoge.
The way he talked about it he didn't think it could be broken even with adequate training! That's why it's so absurd. Obviously some nutrition stuff/time on feet would need to be worked on.
Delusional Ultrarunners? wrote:
compreezy wrote:
So he didn’t say Fordyce is better than Kipchoge? Just that Kipchoge couldn’t break the record?
Correct, that was a bit of a click bait title on my part. Better at 50 miles. He rambled on about some other stuff relating to 50Ks too which is essentially a marathon...
You’re more pathetic than the podcast guys trolling.
A curious cat wrote:
Forest Gump again wrote:
No, some letrun posters are delusional what Marathoners can do on ultradistances.
Some might pull it off like Alberto Salazar did but he only did it once I believe.
I would agree if we were talking about a 100 miler or 200 miler, but we're only talking about a 50 miler.
But they actually have to do it.
Just because some people think it's possible does not mean they will even try it.
Forest Gump again wrote:
A curious cat wrote:
I would agree if we were talking about a 100 miler or 200 miler, but we're only talking about a 50 miler.
But they actually have to do it.
Just because some people think it's possible does not mean they will even try it.
Completely agree. This entire thread is hypothetical I was assuming. Very doubtful Kipchoge would ever attempt it.
Eric is a mid-pack (at best) fanboy - I wouldn’t put much weight into his opinions.
Just because someone has figured out how to publish a podcast doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. Podcasts are just another social media outlet for the masses to spread misinformation.