Is this one of the two big names that never got around to being named?
An Interesting comment from Sara Hall.
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Went from 69 min to 65 min in the half in 2016– ??
So, EPO works on top athletes after all?
George213 wrote:
An Interesting comment from Sara Hall.
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Went from 69 min to 65 min in the half in 2016– ??
So, EPO works on top athletes after all?
Funny, but Canova, if I have properly understood him, says that elite athletes who are PROPERLY trained have no other room for improvement, rendering EPO uneffective for them. That is not to say that those that are lesser trained cannot also take a shortcut to that level via EPO.
Tired of the facade wrote:
Is this one of the two big names that never got around to being named?
I wouldn't think so - this bust has been mentioned before on other doping threads. It's not a new positive.
Sledge_hammer wrote:
http://twitter.com/d9monti/status/1042401291790639105
Woof! woof!
nick vt wrote:
Tired of the facade wrote:
Is this one of the two big names that never got around to being named?
I wouldn't think so - this bust has been mentioned before on other doping threads. It's not a new positive.
Thanks. I suppose just another two positives swept under the rug then- reminiscent of the Aden debacle. That guy just disappeared.
Tired of the facade wrote:
nick vt wrote:
I wouldn't think so - this bust has been mentioned before on other doping threads. It's not a new positive.
Thanks. I suppose just another two positives swept under the rug then- reminiscent of the Aden debacle. That guy just disappeared.
That seems like a silly thing to believe given the names that they have released but if it's what you want to think, that's your prerogative.
She was just testing physics and the laws of thermoregulation homeostasis.
Oh Please wrote:
George213 wrote:
An Interesting comment from Sara Hall.
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Went from 69 min to 65 min in the half in 2016– ??
So, EPO works on top athletes after all?
Funny, but Canova, if I have properly understood him, says that elite athletes who are PROPERLY trained have no other room for improvement, rendering EPO uneffective for them. That is not to say that those that are lesser trained cannot also take a shortcut to that level via EPO.
This is of course a No-True-Scotsman fallacy by Canova. “Oh, the EPO only worked on Xxxx because he wasn’t trained properly. My athletes are trained properly and would receive no benefit from EPO”
George213 wrote:
An Interesting comment from Sara Hall.
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Went from 69 min to 65 min in the half in 2016– ??
So, EPO works on top athletes after all?
so 4 min....lets do them math
5.797% improvement....lets see how rekrunner can spin this
well sara hall is slightly off,
its 69:29 to 65:51 in a year
so the actually % gain was
5.22% gain...still not too shabby.....i wonder where rekrunner will claim the less than 1% happened
Canova had a better argument that EPO was not effective in the marathon because increase blood volume doesn't help when you have run out of glycogen and start burning fats. However, the increased blood volume probably helps your effort level so you do not deplete glycogen stores as fast.
Oh Please wrote:
Canova, if I have properly understood him, says that elite athletes who are PROPERLY trained have no other room for improvement, rendering EPO uneffective for them. That is not to say that those that are lesser trained cannot also take a shortcut to that level via EPO.
That is not just true of elite athletes, but of anyone.
Synthetic EPO, as with almost all medications, is simply another placebo scam that does nothing particularly useful to anyone.
You assume that she could not run faster than 69:29 clean. This is where we part.
m!ndweak wrote:
well sara hall is slightly off,
its 69:29 to 65:51 in a year
so the actually % gain was
5.22% gain...still not too shabby.....i wonder where rekrunner will claim the less than 1% happened
Precious Roy wrote:
Canova had a better argument that EPO was not effective in the marathon because increase blood volume doesn't help when you have run out of glycogen and start burning fats. However, the increased blood volume probably helps your effort level so you do not deplete glycogen stores as fast.
Ding, ding we have a winner. This is spot on.
How to use one's brain for intelligent thinking wrote:
Oh Please wrote:
Canova, if I have properly understood him, says that elite athletes who are PROPERLY trained have no other room for improvement, rendering EPO uneffective for them. That is not to say that those that are lesser trained cannot also take a shortcut to that level via EPO.
That is not just true of elite athletes, but of anyone.
Synthetic EPO, as with almost all medications, is simply another placebo scam that does nothing particularly useful to anyone.
Hi Jon.
rekrunner wrote:
You assume that she could not run faster than 69:29 clean. This is where we part.
m!ndweak wrote:
well sara hall is slightly off,
its 69:29 to 65:51 in a year
so the actually % gain was
5.22% gain...still not too shabby.....i wonder where rekrunner will claim the less than 1% happened
And he's off to the races with obfuscation .
I think I was pretty clear. If you are confused, don't blame me.
look at him go! wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
You assume that she could not run faster than 69:29 clean. This is where we part.
And he's off to the races with obfuscation .
rekrunner wrote:
I think I was pretty clear. If you are confused, don't blame me.
look at him go! wrote:
And he's off to the races with obfuscation .
You're just getting started. Sorry you were confused.