2:04 marathoner Ryan Hall's records will live on another year

Deep questions wrote:

If hall is a 2:04 guy, is Kipchoge a 2:00 guy?

Kipchoge is a sub 2:01 guy in a controlled/aided 26.2 race held on a long track.

Deeper Answer Helper wrote:

Deep questions wrote:

If hall is a 2:04 guy, is Kipchoge a 2:00 guy?

Kipchoge is a sub 2:01 guy in a controlled/aided 26.2 race held on a long track.

Well put!

Raddison wrote:

Weatherman and Hall Fan wrote:

Just like when a sprinter or long jumper has an excessive tailwind, it's called aided.

And the WR for the 100m is 9.45 sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-FWSEmh8Y

Was waiting til some moran pulls something like this out. Marathon has nothing to do with a 100m on a track.

Most importantly you can measure the wind speed and direction on a 100m run and you also have no one in front or behind you. Not in a marathon. Can you provide data that proves Hall ran with a tailwind the whole way and the exact speed of the wind behind him? I had friends who ran in that marathon. The wind did not help much. 1 out of 6 had a PB.

r2 dIII wrote:

Raddison wrote:

And the WR for the 100m is 9.45 sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-FWSEmh8Y

Was waiting til some moran pulls something like this out. Marathon has nothing to do with a 100m on a track.

Most importantly you can measure the wind speed and direction on a 100m run and you also have no one in front or behind you. Not in a marathon. Can you provide data that proves Hall ran with a tailwind the whole way and the exact speed of the wind behind him? I had friends who ran in that marathon. The wind did not help much. 1 out of 6 had a PB.

Lol

yeah, the wind was at the back of the runners in the UTMB much of the time. Yeah, that helped them a lot. Not.

r2 dIII wrote:

Raddison wrote:

And the WR for the 100m is 9.45 sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-FWSEmh8Y

Was waiting til some moran pulls something like this out. Marathon has nothing to do with a 100m on a track.

Most importantly you can measure the wind speed and direction on a 100m run and you also have no one in front or behind you. Not in a marathon. Can you provide data that proves Hall ran with a tailwind the whole way and the exact speed of the wind behind him? I had friends who ran in that marathon. The wind did not help much. 1 out of 6 had a PB.

Raddison is missing a few cells upstairs.

2:03 was ran at Boston that day. Yes, it did help. 1 out of 6 had pr's? Well those 6 fake runners you mentioned really set the mark for the field of 1,000's! LOL!

Aching Stomach from laughing! wrote:

r2 dIII wrote:

Was waiting til some moran pulls something like this out. Marathon has nothing to do with a 100m on a track.

Most importantly you can measure the wind speed and direction on a 100m run and you also have no one in front or behind you. Not in a marathon. Can you provide data that proves Hall ran with a tailwind the whole way and the exact speed of the wind behind him? I had friends who ran in that marathon. The wind did not help much. 1 out of 6 had a PB.

Raddison is missing a few cells upstairs.

2:03 was ran at Boston that day. Yes, it did help. 1 out of 6 had pr's? Well those 6 fake runners you mentioned really set the mark for the field of 1,000's! LOL!

BS. There are always outlier performances. Hall made that race. If it wasn't for him no one was running even 2:06. You know it.

So the 2:05 that was run in NYC is also not legit to you? There were tailwinds.

Hall's was a special performance. Give it a rest.

calling out wrote:

Aching Stomach from laughing! wrote:

Raddison is missing a few cells upstairs.

2:03 was ran at Boston that day. Yes, it did help. 1 out of 6 had pr's? Well those 6 fake runners you mentioned really set the mark for the field of 1,000's! LOL!

BS. There are always outlier performances. Hall made that race. If it wasn't for him no one was running even 2:06. You know it.

So the 2:05 that was run in NYC is also not legit to you? There were tailwinds.

Hall's was a special performance. Give it a rest.

New York is not point to point, moron!

So every time someone goes out hard, there'll be a smashing great time? Duh! Hall ran upfront for awhile, but if it was reckless and too fast, no one would have followed. They didn't just follow, they pulled away and beat him by almost 2 minutes! That was the HUGE tailwind. Does that make sense Princess?

I hope you all keep this BS going through the hurricane. Thanks in advance.

Dunrunny wrote:

I hope you all keep this BS going through the hurricane. Thanks in advance.

Says the guy who's not smart enough to form an intelligent thought.

Calling OUT U wrote:

calling out wrote:

BS. There are always outlier performances. Hall made that race. If it wasn't for him no one was running even 2:06. You know it.

So the 2:05 that was run in NYC is also not legit to you? There were tailwinds.

Hall's was a special performance. Give it a rest.

New York is not point to point, moron!

So every time someone goes out hard, there'll be a smashing great time? Duh! Hall ran upfront for awhile, but if it was reckless and too fast, no one would have followed. They didn't just follow, they pulled away and beat him by almost 2 minutes! That was the HUGE tailwind. Does that make sense Princess?

+1. I don’t know why people complain about getting to Staten Island to start, getting home from there is much worse.

wow yeah the wind! wrote:

yeah, the wind was at the back of the runners in the UTMB much of the time. Yeah, that helped them a lot. Not.

calling out wrote:

BS. There are always outlier performances. Hall made that race. If it wasn't for him no one was running even 2:06. You know it.

So the 2:05 that was run in NYC is also not legit to you? There were tailwinds.

Hall's was a special performance. Give it a rest.

“Back in 1994, one American also took advantage of the conditions to have a career day. US Olympic marathoner Bob Kempainen, who never ran faster than 2:11:03 in his other career marathons, produced the then-fastest time ever by an American in Boston as he ran 2:08:47, eclipsing Alberto Salazar's old record by 5 seconds. That US mark stood until Ryan Hall ran 2:08:41 last year.”

KJKJ wrote:

If you listen to Alberto and Rupp talk about goals, they reference the AR of 2:04:58. They don't mention any other time.

I find that hard to believe. Please show me where.

Calling OUT U wrote:

calling out wrote:

BS. There are always outlier performances. Hall made that race. If it wasn't for him no one was running even 2:06. You know it.

So the 2:05 that was run in NYC is also not legit to you? There were tailwinds.

Hall's was a special performance. Give it a rest.

New York is not point to point, moron!

So every time someone goes out hard, there'll be a smashing great time? Duh! Hall ran upfront for awhile, but if it was reckless and too fast, no one would have followed. They didn't just follow, they pulled away and beat him by almost 2 minutes! That was the HUGE tailwind. Does that make sense Princess?

Who cares you ftard! The biggest wind is the one that's whizzing through your head. From one ear to the other. Hall ran like a man possessed up front basically PACING the eventual winners. HE made it much more attainable for them to get to 2:03. Boston had tailwinds many years. Where's all the other 2:03s, 2:04s??? There were countless 2:10+ winners with tailwinds. Gettoutahere worm.

calling out the retard wrote:

Calling OUT U wrote:

New York is not point to point, moron!

So every time someone goes out hard, there'll be a smashing great time? Duh! Hall ran upfront for awhile, but if it was reckless and too fast, no one would have followed. They didn't just follow, they pulled away and beat him by almost 2 minutes! That was the HUGE tailwind. Does that make sense Princess?

Who cares you ftard! The biggest wind is the one that's whizzing through your head. From one ear to the other. Hall ran like a man possessed up front basically PACING the eventual winners. HE made it much more attainable for them to get to 2:03. Boston had tailwinds many years. Where's all the other 2:03s, 2:04s??? There were countless 2:10+ winners with tailwinds. Gettoutahere worm.

Triggered little girl with no brain, eh? Hall ran up front at that pace BECAUSE of the wind. No one ever ran that close again dipsh*t.

No, rarely tailwinds like that with that kind of talent.

You're either mental or just a plain ole' hobby jogger who is trying to sound smart to his fellow cubicle rats.

Countless 2:10+ winners with tailwinds? You're a simpleton little girl, off you go now>>>runner's world would be more of your flavor.

calling out the retard wrote:

Calling OUT U wrote:

New York is not point to point, moron!

So every time someone goes out hard, there'll be a smashing great time? Duh! Hall ran upfront for awhile, but if it was reckless and too fast, no one would have followed. They didn't just follow, they pulled away and beat him by almost 2 minutes! That was the HUGE tailwind. Does that make sense Princess?

Who cares you ftard! The biggest wind is the one that's whizzing through your head. From one ear to the other. Hall ran like a man possessed up front basically PACING the eventual winners. HE made it much more attainable for them to get to 2:03. Boston had tailwinds many years. Where's all the other 2:03s, 2:04s??? There were countless 2:10+ winners with tailwinds. Gettoutahere worm.

dude, you've got problems. seek help, now!

calling out the retard wrote:

Hall ran like a man possessed up front basically PACING the eventual winners. HE made it much more attainable for them to get to 2:03. Boston had tailwinds many years. Where's all the other 2:03s, 2:04s??? There were countless 2:10+ winners with tailwinds. Gettoutahere worm.

Mutai, the winner, ran his real PB (2:04:15) in Berlin a year later. He had Kamworor and Kimetto pushing him.

Are you trying to say Ryan Hall is a bigger advantage than running in Berlin and having Kimetto and Kamworor as competition?

Unrelated, but it's a shame that Hall denounced his running career by saying that he was weak, emaciated, and unhealthy. He was the greatest American marathoner of all time and then became a somewhat muscular meathead with some flab