The last 6 men's WRs have all been set in Berlin. Can the greatest marathoner ever make it #7?
Jonathan Gault breaks it down for you.
Note: The thread started off entitled as "Will Eliud Kipchoge get the World Record at this weekend's 2018 BMW Berlin Marathon?" but we changed the name of it after we published the women's preview which is now listed below.
Good write up. One little typo
In April, he used a generous tailwind to run what was, at the time, the fastest marathon in history, 2:03:02 in Boston but that didn’t count as the world record as the Boston course is recors ineligible.
sorry, ill be that guy wrote:
Good write up. One little typo
In April, he used a generous tailwind to run what was, at the time, the fastest marathon in history, 2:03:02 in Boston but that didn’t count as the world record as the Boston course is recors ineligible.
The typos is one of the few things I added to the piece.
Not likely to break the record simply because he is just a little too old. Just a tiny bit past his prime. His true age is what, 39 years old now? He was definitely in 2:03 shape two years ago, but right now I think he's more like 2:04.
age cheat wrote:
Not likely to break the record simply because he is just a little too old. Just a tiny bit past his prime. His true age is what, 39 years old now? He was definitely in 2:03 shape two years ago, but right now I think he's more like 2:04.
you up for a bet then? I'll take 40 year old Eliud over anybody
Is it just me, or is there very little hype for Berlin this weekend?
I feel like people are looking more forward to Chicago than Berlin, even this far out.
I'm mostly looking forward to Amsterdam
Looks like only NBC gold in the US? Sucks, was hoping for NBCSN, i feel like they've had it in previous years. No better way to get pumped up for your weekend 20 miler than watching Eliud tear up another 'thon
rojo wrote:
sorry, ill be that guy wrote:
Good write up. One little typo
The typos is one of the few things I added to the piece.
But even if Kipchoge doesn't break the world record on Sunday, it won’t change the way I think about him. I know he has been capable of running well under 2:02:57 in the past. The fact that he has not yet done it says more about the marathon itself than Kipchoge.
Eliud FTW in 2:02:45. Final mile 4:39.
alskdgjf wrote:
Looks like only NBC gold in the US? Sucks, was hoping for NBCSN, i feel like they've had it in previous years. No better way to get pumped up for your weekend 20 miler than watching Eliud tear up another 'thon
I set my DVR for NBCSN for this race. It's at 3 am on Sunday.
The Fap Scientist wrote:
Eliud FTW in 2:02:45. Final mile 4:39.
In other words 4:39 mile pace with a final mile of... 4:39
LetsRun.com wrote:
The last 6 men's WRs have all been set in Berlin. Can the greatest marathoner ever make it #7?
Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever? People have short memories. Breaking2 not withstanding, he has the third best marathon of all time. And one could argue that he is so dominant now mainly because the competition isn't as strong. Bekele, Kipsang, Kimetto are getting past their prime. Who else is there? A random Guye Adola almost beat Kipchoge last year at Berlin in his first marathon ever.
One could argue that Kipsang's nearly solo 2:03 in Tokyo, or Geoffrey Mutai's 2:05.05 at NYC were more impressive than a handful of non record setting performances at London and Berlin. Kimetto's 2:03 in Chicago.. all are performances that are unmatched.
Had Breaking2 not happened, not sure Kipchoge would have nearly the hype.
UA Runner wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
The last 6 men's WRs have all been set in Berlin. Can the greatest marathoner ever make it #7?
Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever? People have short memories. Breaking2 not withstanding, he has the third best marathon of all time. And one could argue that he is so dominant now mainly because the competition isn't as strong. Bekele, Kipsang, Kimetto are getting past their prime. Who else is there? A random Guye Adola almost beat Kipchoge last year at Berlin in his first marathon ever.
One could argue that Kipsang's nearly solo 2:03 in Tokyo, or Geoffrey Mutai's 2:05.05 at NYC were more impressive than a handful of non record setting performances at London and Berlin. Kimetto's 2:03 in Chicago.. all are performances that are unmatched.
Had Breaking2 not happened, not sure Kipchoge would have nearly the hype.
His last great workout tells he is ready for the record. I think he will make it this time.
Just going to play the odds and say "no".
UA Runner wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
The last 6 men's WRs have all been set in Berlin. Can the greatest marathoner ever make it #7?
Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever? People have short memories. Breaking2 not withstanding, he has the third best marathon of all time. And one could argue that he is so dominant now mainly because the competition isn't as strong. Bekele, Kipsang, Kimetto are getting past their prime. Who else is there? A random Guye Adola almost beat Kipchoge last year at Berlin in his first marathon ever.
One could argue that Kipsang's nearly solo 2:03 in Tokyo, or Geoffrey Mutai's 2:05.05 at NYC were more impressive than a handful of non record setting performances at London and Berlin. Kimetto's 2:03 in Chicago.. all are performances that are unmatched.
Had Breaking2 not happened, not sure Kipchoge would have nearly the hype.
He would most certainly still have the hype from running fans. Who do you consider the greatest marathoner ever if not Eliud?
Yes. He's been pouring his soul into training for Berlin. I think he's capable of sub 2:02:57.
Mutai's 2:05 at NYC is the world record to me.
And the 2:10 Rodgers ran there in 1976 was the world record too.
The three greatest performance in the marathon I have ever seen (2 in person)
1. Benoit winning the Olympics 1984
2. Mutai's 2:05 in NY
3. Eluid's 2:00:25
I measured 2 of the 3. two top measures did NY that year.
I would put Wanjiru's Beijing marathon in there too, but that's all just debating greatest marathon performance vs. greatest marathoner.