Malaysia's Attempt to Break NR at 2:24:00 in Berlin Marathon , And We Need A Pack

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Bump.

Hope everything works out and he gets it.

Muhaizar bump.

zulzul wrote:

Hi guys, I am posting this as the manager of Muhaizar Mohamad, our own national athlete looking to break the NR at the upcoming Berlin Marathon. It currently stands at 2:28:36 as the officially ratified record, although Muhaizar did a 2:27:25 at Tokyo last Feb (The whole story

https://ongkianming.com/2018/03/02/media-statement-two-malaysians-ran-faster-than-the-existing-national-record-in-the-tokyo-marathon-2018-but-unfortunately-their-accomplishments-have-not-been-ratified/

).

I'm looking for anyone who's attempting similar time as him and have a pack to share the load. Also, any tips on how to tackle the route for those who've experienced the course.

More news on Muhaizar:

https://www.nst.com.my/sports/others/2017/08/269648/kl2017-muhaizar-bags-first-marathon-medal-malaysia-44-yearshttp://www.thesundaily.my/news/2018/04/08/muhaizar-dedicates-fourth-scklm-title-late-mother

Good luck to Muhaizar - there will be tens of people running in that pace window. He wont have any problems is finding a good group. I only have done a HM there, and marathoners can chip in on this, but super flat course & good tarmac Weather generally good (not too warm) although with the odd outlier (see last year- warm & humid).

THIS is what Letsrun is about.

Awesome .... Bump - Good Luck!

Depending on his target time, there may be a few elite women that he might be able to key off of. The Hahner twins typically run in the high 2:20s and typically get help from pacesetters

Viel Glück

BumpForAGoodThread wrote:

THIS is what Letsrun is about.

Awesome .... Bump - Good Luck!

Agreed! Best of luck.

I'm looking to run ~2:24 in Berlin. Does Muhaizar speak English? Feel free to email me at chadtrammell3@gmail.com or I'll just look for him early in the race!

American Running Berlin wrote:

I'm looking to run ~2:24 in Berlin. Does Muhaizar speak English? Feel free to email me at

chadtrammell3@gmail.com

or I'll just look for him early in the race!

Nice try Chad but this is a marathon, not a tough mudder.

Thanks for the info man, it didn't occur to me about the twins as the first time I knew about them was from the Berlin Marathon last year. From what I gather Anna is not running due to T1 Edema, and couldn't find any announcement on Lisa yet. Will dig more later.

http://www.hahnertwins.com/en/news/611-norunning-anna

Good luck. I hope he does it.

This is a positive thread unlike the trash this Sand Dunes d-bag starts.

American Running Berlin wrote:

I'm looking to run ~2:24 in Berlin. Does Muhaizar speak English? Feel free to email me at

chadtrammell3@gmail.com

or I'll just look for him early in the race!

Unfortunately he only speaks the basic, but enough to get him through especially on running. He will be starting as sub-elite though, right after the elite flag off. Will drop you an email today.

@ everyone, thank you so much for the support. I will extend the wish to him. We will be arriving on Sunday, one week before the race to fight the jet lag and getting him familiar with the weather and stuff (Tokyo was his first time going overseas and racing, so Berlin will be his second time flying).

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Hi guys,

My name is Dane Verwey my Pb is 2:24:18 from 204 Melbourne marathon. I also ran 2:24:53 this year at Hobart marathon. I want to break 2:24 at Berlin 2018. Check out my blog titled ‘breaking2:24’ at

www.runculture.org

detailing my 16 week prep!

Would love to be in contact with you guys too, my email is;

dsverwey@gmail.com

Look forward to getting in touch and working with you guys out there!

Dane

Looks like he ran 2:26:27, congratulations!

Runculture wrote:

Hi guys,

My name is Dane Verwey my Pb is 2:24:18 from 204 Melbourne marathon. I also ran 2:24:53 this year at Hobart marathon. I want to break 2:24 at Berlin 2018. Check out my blog titled ‘breaking2:24’ at

www.runculture.org

detailing my 16 week prep!

Would love to be in contact with you guys too, my email is;

dsverwey@gmail.com

Look forward to getting in touch and working with you guys out there!

Dane

Looks like Dane ran 2:22! Great run!

Should get together with Sage Canaday to try and break 2:20 next year!

Novan wrote:

Looks like he ran 2:26:27, congratulations!

Thanks!!

After sending him off, I waited for him KM 7 and he was running alone, with a pack of runners 1-2 secs in front of him with Soh Rui Yong inside. Overall he ran a good first half in 62:08, 1 second behind Soh Rui Yong. He couldnt sustain the pace at KM 28 and starts to trail, until KM 35 where he suffers really badly with the time of 18:18 KM35-KM40 and finish in 2:26:27. He went all out by the time he reached the finishing line with almost no energy left.

He PBed by 58 seconds this time. This is by far the smallest gain in PB in his marathon career, before it was all 3 - 4 minutes every time. His longest run is 29km, and I personall think he needs longer runs for his next marathon training cycle. He also vomited at the hotel after the race. Do you think too much sugar is the cause? Or was the effort too much for his body?

This is his split for the race.

split time of day time diff min/km km/h

5 km 09:31:56 00:16:56 16:56 03:24 17.73

10 km 09:49:00 00:34:00 17:04 03:25 17.58

15 km 10:06:21 00:51:20 17:21 03:29 17.30

20 km 10:23:26 01:08:26 17:06 03:26 17.55

Half 10:27:08 01:12:08 03:42 03:23 17.81

25 km 10:40:36 01:25:35 13:28 03:27 17.40

30 km 10:57:46 01:42:46 17:11 03:27 17.47

35 km 11:15:19 02:00:19 17:34 03:31 17.09

40 km 11:33:36 02:18:36 18:18 03:40 16.41

Finish 11:41:28 02:26:27 07:52 03:35 16.76

Nevertheles, I'm still proud with what he has achieved. Another PB, second fastest marathon in Malaysia's history. if he trains smarter and race the right marathon, we may see him along with Leo Tan to qualify for Olympic 2020 next year.

Correction, his half is 72min and 08secs as shown in the split

He needs to doing more longer long runs and threshold work and some race simulation efforts. Also proper fueling is huge. I coach a guy who ran in several international championships including the Olympics, etc. We did everything by minutes and effort, not specific distance, but routinely covered 37-40k in long runs and even over a marathon distance. Fueling is really key though. What are his pr's for shorter distances?