Who is the best runner you have ever TRULY beaten?

Sure, you technically beat rupp, but I hardly think that counts as ‘truly beaten’. The overweight moms who finished in 6 hours also beat Rupp. Big whoop.

Nick Symmonds at the Eugene Half in 2018. Beat him by a minute, 1:25 to his 1:26.

mine is pretty good wrote:

Who is the fastest runner you have ever actually won over? (Better result in a race.)

I am not talking about someone who is DNS because then you didn’t actually beat them in “the field of play.”

My “PB scalp” is Galen Rupp in the 2018 Boston Marathon.

DNF isn't a win.

L O S E R wrote:

[quote]mine is pretty good wrote:

DNF isn't a win.

I think you misunderstood.

HE was DNF. So I beat him.

Ryan Hall and Meb.

mine is pretty good wrote:

L O S E R wrote:

[quote]mine is pretty good wrote:

DNF isn't a win.

I think you misunderstood.

HE was DNF. So I beat him.

No, L O S E R was right, when your "opponent" DNFs, it doesnt count as a win for you, it is merely a participation ribbon. To be a win, the other person has to give it his or her true 100% in that moment.

Rupp dropped out of Boston when it became clear he wouldn't end up in the top handful because he was struggling with hypothermia, so it was better to pack it in so he could run another race sooner.

At boston, there were a handful of other elites with PRs under 2:10 who ended up 30 minutes off of their PRs but actually finishing. If you ended up ahead of them, that counts.

It would have been cool if you beat Guy's Adola in London. His time was slow enough to be beaten by a good marathon runner but far from elite. He literally went from 2:03 to 2:32 between marathons. That would be the best example of someone beating a really good runner only half a year after they nearly beat Kipchoge.

I raced Leo Manzano twice in high school, once in cross, once on the track, and I beat him both times. Then he went on to dominate me in college.

On top of my head I beat Chris Fox;John Campbell,and Bill Rodgers.

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

mine is pretty good wrote:

I think you misunderstood.

HE was DNF. So I beat him.

No, L O S E R was right, when your "opponent" DNFs, it doesnt count as a win for you, it is merely a participation ribbon. To be a win, the other person has to give it his or her true 100% in that moment.

Rupp dropped out of Boston when it became clear he wouldn't end up in the top handful because he was struggling with hypothermia, so it was better to pack it in so he could run another race sooner.

At boston, there were a handful of other elites with PRs under 2:10 who ended up 30 minutes off of their PRs but actually finishing. If you ended up ahead of them, that counts.

You are wrong. If a runner dnf, they lose to all runners who finish the race. It most definitely counts as a win.

I know an old dude who beat El G. I think he posts here from time to time.

My best is Michael Stember when he was trying to resurrect his running career in 2008.

Becky Lyne a long time ago.

I beat Desi Linden 3 times this year. Yes I am female and not a pro.

Beat Clayton Murphy a lot in HS. All you had to do was take off at mile 2 and he would quit. He must have toughened up since then.

Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad in a 10k. The catch? He was just pacing a biathlete who was running this race for fun.

hsrunner04 wrote:

I raced Leo Manzano twice in high school, once in cross, once on the track, and I beat him both times. Then he went on to dominate me in college.

This is who I thought of too. He ran some pretty slow races mid-season

Beat this guy twice in XC.

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/south-africa/clyde-colenso-131442

Marcus Siepen wrote:

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

No, L O S E R was right, when your "opponent" DNFs, it doesnt count as a win for you, it is merely a participation ribbon. To be a win, the other person has to give it his or her true 100% in that moment.

Rupp dropped out of Boston when it became clear he wouldn't end up in the top handful because he was struggling with hypothermia, so it was better to pack it in so he could run another race sooner.

At boston, there were a handful of other elites with PRs under 2:10 who ended up 30 minutes off of their PRs but actually finishing. If you ended up ahead of them, that counts.

You are wrong. If a runner dnf, they lose to all runners who finish the race. It most definitely counts as a win.

Seems like a real stretch in this case. The only real winner between the OP and Rupp seems to me like mother nature.

mine is pretty good wrote:

Who is the fastest runner you have ever actually won over? (Better result in a race.)

I am not talking about someone who is DNS because then you didn’t actually beat them in “the field of play.”

My “PB scalp” is Galen Rupp in the 2018 Boston Marathon.

You put TRULY in all caps, and then your "victory" was Rupp's DNF?

To me, this requires two things:

1) The athlete was in their prime, or you were/are the same age as them when you beat them. So you can't just race Bill Rodgers or JBS (Joan, not Jenny) nowadays and call it a win.

2) You were ACTUALLY better than them on race day. Doesn't count if they were two miles up the road and bombed, even if they finished the race. So the lead pack at Boston when Rupp dropped gets the scalp, but you don't.

The best runners for this type of thing are guys like Leo Manzano or Alan Webb who had crazy inconsistent results, or like Clayton Murphy or Cam Levins, who went from decent runners to world class.