I'm no expert on race walking, but I'm pretty sure one of the basic rules is that you need to have at least one foot in contact with the ground at all times during the competition-- right?
There's an article linked on the front page about British race walker and world record holder Tom Bosworth, and one of the photos in the article, from his WR race in London, shows both feet in the air.
Missed call, or somehow legal?
Full article:
Love to hear race walk experts chime in...
It's a total joke, like competing to be the loudest whisperer.
They come back with this crap about 'whether it's seen with the naked eye'... well soccer has just been revolutionised to remove human error with VAR, so that 'cheating' is ruled out. Let's get a team of judges in a box watching the race and ruling on decisions. Otherwise they hide in the pack 'running' until the crucial part of the race.
This guy 'runs' in every race I see, maybe his 'technique' is fooling the judges but come on! Get rid of this antiquated crap. What next? Nike racing with square wheels?
I'm no expert either but I would need to see a side photo to see if both knees were locked . Don't be a hater just move on to something that interest you and leave this up to the judges. Maybe the camera man was standing in the way of the judge so she couldn't see. Or maybe the crowd was doing the wave at the time and it was the judges turn to stand up and wave. You know they are just human and trying to fit in but it's hard for them with you calling out every little thing they miss.
No that is a run. That is the thing, all the top guys actually run. It should be called running with bad form not race walking.
Most likely somehow legal thougha missed call is possible. I know a guy who is a racewalk judge. Apparently the rule about having one foot on the ground says something like "as visible to the naked eye." That's probably not an exact quote but it's along those lines. Racewalkers' feet are usually moving too fast to allow a naked eye to see that both feet re airborne unless it's done fairly blatantly so that photo may be showing something that actually is legal though it could be that a judge just missed it. Walkers don't have judges next to them at every stride.
HRE is correct. The rule as current is "visible to the naked eye". If they do introduce video review it will definitely slow down the event and they won't be able to "run" anymore like seen in numerous photos.
No the rule is that to the naked eye one foot us always in the ground.
He's been disqualified a few times so it's not like he's getting away with lifting
Well, you can freeze frame every step on certain camera views and see that before/after every step he is lifting both feet off the ground. I admit it's hard to see that with the naked eye but it is visible. Ridiculous.
walkie talkie wrote:
I'm no expert on race walking, but I'm pretty sure one of the basic rules is that you need to have at least one foot in contact with the ground at all times during the competition-- right?
There's an article linked on the front page about British race walker and world record holder Tom Bosworth, and one of the photos in the article, from his WR race in London, shows both feet in the air.
Missed call, or somehow legal?
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/07/22/13/Tom-Bosworth-0.jpg?width=1368&height=912&fit=bounds&format=pjpg&auto=webp&quality=70Full article:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/team-gb-tom-bosworth-qatar-world-championships-lgbt-rights-a8458706.htmlLove to hear race walk experts chime in...
That photo is not from his mile world record of 5:31.xx. Whatever race your photo is, I'm sure at the very least he got a yellow paddle or red paddle, because as you can see he's quite clearly floating by too much. But remember the rule relates to what can be seen with the judges eyes. But looking at this photo I'm inclined to believe that he would definitely have been at least warned. by the way Tom has been disqualified from race walks before it was either in an Olympics or World Championship... I forget.
In the video of his mile world record he is wearing a dark blue top light blue shorts and bright green shoes. It's on YouTube you can see it. Watch that video. You can see that he did everything right there.
You can sometimes have 2 feet in the air while race walking. But judges take notice and give you warning.
If you get flagged multiple times for "jumping" or having 2 feet in the air, then you'll get disqualified.
You get a few chances to "cheat."
Since Americans are such bad race walkers, I always wonder if they actually follow the rules. Anyone know?
pond scum wrote:
You can sometimes have 2 feet in the air while race walking. But judges take notice and give you warning.
If you get flagged multiple times for "jumping" or having 2 feet in the air, then you'll get disqualified.
You get a few chances to "cheat."
I wonder if they even had track judges giving out warnings during this WR?
If they didn't use them, can't I simply use an adapted non-running technique and smash this WR?
You literally have people lined on the distance of the course, each watching your footsteps.
If you can find a way to making professional racewalking from 6:00 a mile to 5:00 a mile, without jumping (i.e. running), then you can smash the world record.
Racewalkers walk at 6 to 5 minute a mile pace. My long run pace is 8 minutes, and my marathon pace is about 7:20. I can't race walk.
pond scum wrote:
You literally have people lined on the distance of the course, each watching your footsteps.
If you can find a way to making professional racewalking from 6:00 a mile to 5:00 a mile, without jumping (i.e. running), then you can smash the world record.
Racewalkers walk at 6 to 5 minute a mile pace. My long run pace is 8 minutes, and my marathon pace is about 7:20. I can't race walk.
Not what I asked! I know they use judges in the 20k and 50k events. I asked if they used judges in Bosworths track 3k set up for him at home in London.
My feeling is they probably didn't. Or just had one guy at the 400m mark so you had to behave as you went past but then can open up on the back straight.
If they didn't then I could break this WR easily. It's just running if you don't even judge the walkers.
2:18 wrote:
I'm no expert either but I would need to see a side photo to see if both knees were locked . Don't be a hater just move on to something that interest you and leave this up to the judges. Maybe the camera man was standing in the way of the judge so she couldn't see. Or maybe the crowd was doing the wave at the time and it was the judges turn to stand up and wave. You know they are just human and trying to fit in but it's hard for them with you calling out every little thing they miss.
You don't know what you're talking about regarding race walking rules.
Many decades ago they were looking for both legs to be straight but not today. The biggest change happened at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics. Read about the coach who came from Europe to coach the Mexican race walkers. Do some research on your own on the history of race walking rules. it's interesting how they have changed over the years.
Now about the straight leg...
The leg that is advancing to the rear must be straightened only when the heel first contacts the ground and remain straightened until the leg has passed just beneath the body just beyond perpendicular to the ground. After that point the needy can be bent. And of course the swing leg that is moving forward can also be bent. So there is only one leg that must be straightened and that is the support leg and it must only be straightened for a very brief period of time: from heel first contact with the ground until it has just passed perpendicular.
I hope this helps you! It really is a fun Sport and frankly when I do it it makes me laugh because I know I'm pumping my arms and legs so fast, 210 to 220 steps a minute! It must look like Super Mario or something.
Sand Dunes wrote:
https://youtu.be/EOYdS5QZasM
YOU HAVE TO BE FU**ING KIDDING! HOW CAN YOU NOT LAUGH WHEN WATCHING THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elliot Denman a two time Olympian along with Ray Funkhouser , a past president of Shore A.C. asked me to try it out. I gave it a try for two months. I just couldn't do it right . I got DQed in the two races I tried. Never tried it again after that but I have a new respect for it. I still think it's funny.
Fogrunr wrote: Now about the straight leg... The leg that is advancing to the rear
if your intention was to clarify anything, then you failed.
advancing to the rear is IMPOSSIBLE.
please try again.
cheers.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY SHITTING ME wrote:
Sand Dunes wrote:
https://youtu.be/EOYdS5QZasMYOU HAVE TO BE FU**ING KIDDING! HOW CAN YOU NOT LAUGH WHEN WATCHING THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Start the clip at 3:10 and put the speed at .25 . He clearly has both feet off the ground on every stride.
