POSE running. Anyone have much experience with it? Success stories?
POSE running. Anyone have much experience with it? Success stories?
POSE is the Crossfit training method for running. I don’t know about you, but I see crossfitters winning the local road races all the time. So would definitely recommend POSE
pose running doesn't exist, nor does chi running or any of those other things. they're just fancy, branded terms for running correctly ("look at how the pros run -- we can teach you to do the same thing!")
some of their form drills are useful and you'll probably benefit from them. but they don't replace foot/hip/core stability/mobility exercises as better cues for running more efficiently
but if you don't currently do form drills but do have a solid foundation in a stability routine, then you might benefit from doing their drills before workouts and regular runs
it was great - then my Puma H Streets developed a hole in the outsole, and they stopped making them about 2 years before POSE running fad faded away, so now it's just Hoka's and mimosas for me
I had the VHS tape back in 2003. As others have said, some of the drills can be helpful. I tended to overstride and heel-strike quite dramatically; the drills helped me increase my cadence and land more midfoot.
Zante wrote:
pose running doesn't exist, nor does chi running or any of those other things. they're just fancy, branded terms for running correctly ("look at how the pros run -- we can teach you to do the same thing!")
True, but also not true. "POSE" running isn't running correctly. It takes all the things of running correctly then adds something wrong (emphasizing pulling the foot up and NOT pushing off) and makes that the whole focus.
But it's a scam. It's a branded term to sell books and clinic tickets and give running store employees something to teach the unwashed masses
Allen1959 wrote:
I had the VHS tape back in 2003. As others have said, some of the drills can be helpful. I tended to overstride and heel-strike quite dramatically; the drills helped me increase my cadence and land more midfoot.
Me too. I agree that some of the drills can be helpful. I also increased cadence and switched from severe heel striker to forefoot strike. The POSE also helped eliminate some chronic knee issues I'd had for years. It took about three months to get comfortable with the POSE method, but.....
I was slower than before!
I looked more closely and realized that the POSE was biomechanically incorrect. In those days, the POSE method was compared to how cheetahs, dogs, and other four-legged animals ran... by lifting their feet. However, animals DO push off. Their lower leg is the equivalent of the back of the foot in humans.
When I added a push off to the POSE, I was instantly faster... phenomenally faster, but it took a while to train my muscles to handle the push off.
tl:dr
Forget the POSE.
Poser wrote:
Just run.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/well/move/the-best-running-stride-the-one-that-comes-naturally.html
This study proves almost nothing.
DMP wrote:
POSE running. Anyone have much experience with it? Success stories?
Gravity doesn’t “pull” you forward.
POSE is a way to make money from a book describing how an Apple falls from a tree.
Do basic running drills. Run fast. Run a lot. That’s how you improve running mechanics....you practice the skill of running.
Alan
Pose is mumbo jumbo
It’s main arguments:
1. Use gravity in your favor- total nonsense since gravity always pulls you down to the center of earth.
2. Just lifting foot of the ground without pushing- crap. No mass could move forward without applying force to the ground.
3. Cadence should always be at least 180- crap. Your body knows best how to correlate between stride length and cadence according to the speed you dictate. Slow running- slow cadence and shorter strides. Fast running - high cadence and longer strides- simple as that.
4. Land forefoot- this is the only thing that I think is right since all sprinters run forefoot and many long distance elites aswell and for me it feels better, yet many elite long distance runners heel strike aswell.
DMP wrote:
POSE running. Anyone have much experience with it? Success stories?
Here is running's most successful POSEr. Impossible PRs and a Boston Marathon for the ages.
https://imgur.com/D0hPIYHAs previously stated not pushing off the ground like Pose suggest is a terrible idea and will completely mess with your strength and reflexes. The reason it might have some success is because you are not actually running when you do it, hence the people who say they got slower. You might not get hurt but that's because you're not actually using your musculature. Long term you will get hurt.
Totally agree except about cadence the body have a natural springyness around 180 spm. You can feel this by just jumping a different frequencies and you will fine around 180 is springy. Not to say that cadence doesn't change some just not a lot. Books like owen Anderson's running form and Jay Diccary's anatomy for runners give a much better picture of running form and injury prevention.