Caster Semenya has just destroyed her lifetime PB, without any rabbits. 1:54.25!!

Semenya runs 1:54.26 with NO PACERS and looks very comfortable. She is cheating. How is this not cheating? She clearly has the musculature of a man. She knows her time is running out and is finally trying harder in races. She is a cheater!!!!

rojo wrote:She finally did what we've all wanted to see her do - go for it. And she did it without a rabbit.

Not sure about that. To me she looked like she still had plenty in the tank. I think she misjudged her pace and accidentally was faster than usual.

rojo wrote:

What a race. What a performance. And hopefully this will prove to meet directors there is no need to have rabbit after rabbit. Unreal!!

I had her unofficially in like 26.6 for 200, 56.12 FAT at 500 and then 1:25.37.

She finally did what we've all wanted to see her do - go for it. And she did it without a rabbit.

Great run. I hate to focus on the negative, but when you said “...hopefully this will prove...” I immediately finished differently in my mind than what you wrote. And I hope it proves that too.

Anyways, solid run for Ajee and big PB for Goule getting under 1:58. Alright, ladies.

How is she cheating? She is following the rules, but the rules clearly need to be changed for the competition to be fair.

I wouldn't call it cheating, as she was born that way. I'd term it more as "unfair". It literally is no different than a woman taking significant amounts of steroid (in this case, testosterone).

GBohannon wrote:

Great run. I hate to focus on the negative, but when you said “...hopefully this will prove...” I immediately finished differently in my mind than what you wrote. And I hope it proves that too.

Anyways, solid run for Ajee and big PB for Goule getting under 1:58. Alright, ladies.

Look, I don't think a person who has xy chromosones, no uterus and internal testicles should be allowed to compete in the women's professional category but I did love this race. For years, people have wondered if she sandbagged. For years, I've hated it when she didn't go with the rabbits. And tonight, with no rabbit, it just came as a surprise.

It's almost as if she's like, "Ok if you are going to ban me, I'm going to get the WR and a huge ass bonus." I respect how she's saying, "F U".

I must be the only track "fan" who cannot watch the Diamond League W800m anymore.

We've merged two threads into 1. The other one was called "Semenya the CHEATER!!!"

rojo wrote:

GBohannon wrote:

Great run. I hate to focus on the negative, but when you said “...hopefully this will prove...” I immediately finished differently in my mind than what you wrote. And I hope it proves that too.

Anyways, solid run for Ajee and big PB for Goule getting under 1:58. Alright, ladies.

Look, I don't think a person who has xy chromosones, no uterus and internal testicles should be allowed to compete in the women's professional category but I did love this race. For years, people have wondered if she sandbagged. For years, I've hated it when she didn't go with the rabbits. And tonight, with no rabbit, it just came as a surprise.

It's almost as if she's like, "Ok if you are going to ban me, I'm going to get the WR and a huge ass bonus." I respect how she's saying, "F U".

Agree 100%. I always respect the way she is racing so far this season and it does feel like she is making a point. I do not “blame” her for the advantage that she has and actually few pretty bad for her as I believe that she has identified as a woman her entire life and was likely unaware of her internal testes prior to the invasive testing process years back. I still don’t feel it’s fair that she gets to compete without the testosterone limits in place.

rojo wrote:

It's almost as if she's like, "Ok if you are going to ban me, I'm going to get the WR and a huge ass bonus." I respect how she's saying, "F U".

That is EXACTLY what I thought when I watched it. Her time is limited, so she's just going to go for it.

rojo wrote:

Look, I don't think a person who has xy chromosones, no uterus and internal testicles should be allowed to compete in the women's professional category but I did love this race. For years, people have wondered if she sandbagged. For years, I've hated it when she didn't go with the rabbits. And tonight, with no rabbit, it just came as a surprise.

It's almost as if she's like, "Ok if you are going to ban me, I'm going to get the WR and a huge ass bonus." I respect how she's saying, "F U".

I rarely ever agree with you (possibly never have) but I agree with you on this.

I loved seeing her go out there and blasting her PR. I hope she continues to run all out. To be honest, she's surprisingly become a bit awe-inspiring to me; she's just trying to compete and do her best.

I'm curious to see what she chooses to do once the new rules/hormone standards go into effect (about time, too, I must say.)

But for now, no, she is not cheating. She is competing within the rules at the moment. And I hope she goes out and puts on a great show for everyone.

Semenya is a male with female characteristics. "She" is anything but a female. An unfortunate individual whose birth characteristics, along with rampant ignorance in South Africa, resulted in "her" mother raising Caster as a female. I can understand the natural reaction of the mother as a protection for Caster against ignorance in S.A., but there is no disputing that Caster is NOT a real female.

Likewise, I get no enjoyment out of watching these 800 races anymore. What a farce. The fact that it has gone on for years without them changing the rules is a joke. I don’t know how anyone can celebrate the performance when high school boys run 1:54 all the time. The other women in these races are making a huge mistake by not boycotting them until they get to race fairly again.

rojo wrote:

Look, I don't think a person who has xy chromosones, no uterus and internal testicles should be allowed to compete in the women's professional category

Do we actually know that Semenya is XY?

Cheater wrote:

Semenya runs 1:54.26 with NO PACERS and looks very comfortable. She is cheating. How is this not cheating? She clearly has the musculature of a man. She knows her time is running out and is finally trying harder in races. She is a cheater!!!!

She is a woman, she has no control over how she was born, leave her be.

A 1:54 is no big deal for a young adult male which is what we're talking about here.

I hope that every one of the performances that Semenya runs has an asterisk next to them on the history books. This is a farce. I can’t wait for testosterone limits to go into effect and for Semenya to disappear.

rojo wrote:

GBohannon wrote:

Great run. I hate to focus on the negative, but when you said “...hopefully this will prove...” I immediately finished differently in my mind than what you wrote. And I hope it proves that too.

Anyways, solid run for Ajee and big PB for Goule getting under 1:58. Alright, ladies.

Look, I don't think a person who has xy chromosones, no uterus and internal testicles should be allowed to compete in the women's professional category but I did love this race. For years, people have wondered if she sandbagged. For years, I've hated it when she didn't go with the rabbits. And tonight, with no rabbit, it just came as a surprise.

It's almost as if she's like, "Ok if you are going to ban me, I'm going to get the WR and a huge ass bonus." I respect how she's saying, "F U".

Yea, I think she is finally done playing games and just going for it in her last season without the testosterone limits. Make as much money as possible and also a mockery of the ineffective rules.