If so, can a paced race count for a record?
If so, can a paced race count for a record?
Yea, any race can have someone effectively serve as a pacer. It's not exactly a formal thing when you boil it down. Just find someone that can run the paces you want , have them start the race, lead until whenever you've arranged for them to drop out and boom, you've done it!
But could the record be considered invalid if it was determined that it was paced. Surely the officials would be able to tell if someone one the same team ad the guy setting the record went out way faster than their PR pace and then dropped out without being injured or anything. Maybe the pacer just has to finish the race for it to be legal, even if they jog it in?
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Informal rabbits like Hicham El Guerrouji did at the 2000 Olympic 1500m final. He just had one of his country men take it out fast. Do the same thing with one of your team mates.
Dumb question. I don’t think the OP understands that the pacer is entered in the race. Most of the responses already made that clear. Any runner in the race can go out hard and drop out.
Pacer ok wrote:
Most of the responses already made that clear. Any runner in the race can go out hard and drop out.
Dude, you can get DQed for doing this!
Not like the guys who have PACER on their bib.
But I once coached an end of season, non-league, useless dual meet.
We had a lot of good distance runners.
We put 18 boys in the 1600. My fast guys "paced" the slower guys. We had 17 boys break 5:00 (1 poor kid just missed).
That makes sense. A runner drops out and then gets DQed. Duh.
Highschool wrote:
If so, can a paced race count for a record?
I know of no rule at any level that would not count the record as long as the pacer stays within the rules. (For instance a runner cannot drop out on lap 3 and then jump back on lap 7 of the 3200.)
Luv2Run wrote:
Highschool wrote:
If so, can a paced race count for a record?
I know of no rule at any level that would not count the record as long as the pacer stays within the rules. (For instance a runner cannot drop out on lap 3 and then jump back on lap 7 of the 3200.)
Could a runner run the first four laps of a 3200 setting the pace then swing wide into lane 4 or 5 and wait for the runners to pass and then jog slowly until the lead runners come back to lap him and then take over pacing duties again for the final two laps or so? He would still be an almost lapped runner and after the leaders finish he would still have another lap to complete or drop out. Never seen it done but could it be done with no DQ for anyone?
Rudy the Rabbit wrote:
Luv2Run wrote:
I know of no rule at any level that would not count the record as long as the pacer stays within the rules. (For instance a runner cannot drop out on lap 3 and then jump back on lap 7 of the 3200.)
Could a runner run the first four laps of a 3200 setting the pace then swing wide into lane 4 or 5 and wait for the runners to pass and then jog slowly until the lead runners come back to lap him and then take over pacing duties again for the final two laps or so? He would still be an almost lapped runner and after the leaders finish he would still have another lap to complete or drop out. Never seen it done but could it be done with no DQ for anyone?
This actually reminds me of something I read about Roger Bannister in one of his 4 minute mile attempts. Apparently, he had one of his buddies go out at like 8 minute pace so he could pace him in the last half. Roger ran around 4:02 but it was extremely frowned upon by the British press and public for being unsportsmanlike. Bannister later said he was glad he didn't break 4 minutes in that race.
Rudy the Rabbit wrote:
Luv2Run wrote:
I know of no rule at any level that would not count the record as long as the pacer stays within the rules. (For instance a runner cannot drop out on lap 3 and then jump back on lap 7 of the 3200.)
Could a runner run the first four laps of a 3200 setting the pace then swing wide into lane 4 or 5 and wait for the runners to pass and then jog slowly until the lead runners come back to lap him and then take over pacing duties again for the final two laps or so? He would still be an almost lapped runner and after the leaders finish he would still have another lap to complete or drop out. Never seen it done but could it be done with no DQ for anyone?
Doing this would be grounds for a DQ (for College at least). Saw it happen in a 5k where a team rotated 3 pacers for their teammate where each one would pace for a little while the others jogged super slow on the outside waiting for their turn to pace. They all got DQed and the time wasn't recorded in TFRRS.