Pump and dump, bro. Ain't no shame in that.
Pump and dump, bro. Ain't no shame in that.
typical millennial wrote:
Dr. Dilemma wrote:
I'm 30 and have gone out with about 20 different women in the last 8 months. I find that almost all available women in their late 20s and beyond either already have children or have significant psychological issues (or both). However, women in their early 20s are extremely annoying, to the point that I often would rather just get off myself then pay them a 90 minute visit because it isn't even worth it under that short of timeframe.
I'm having a tough time picking my poison. The negative traits of both age groups seem to be dealbreakers for me. :(
Do you have spreadsheet data by chance? I want to dump it into a powerpoint i made for my GF
I actually do have a spreadsheet. I was a pretty big whhore for a few years and decided to create a spreadsheet after I got up to around 20. I don't really live that lifestyle anymore, but I don't regret it either. I had a lot of good times, gained a lot of experience, and shared a lot of intimate times with a variety of women. Sure, not all of them were worth it, but a lot were pretty cool, decent women. We just weren't really a good fit for a relationship.
There are so many psychos on this message board.
Love and companionship should be the driving force for entering into and maintaining any relationship. Everyone has their flaws. No one is perfect. Once you accept this reality and accept who you really are finding love will come naturally.
WHO YOU ARE is a hell of a lot more than your savings account and career and 5k PR. WHO YOU ARE has a lot more to do with your ability to understand and relate to other people, your ability to convey compassion, to allow someone to be vulnerable in front of you and to allow yourself to be vulnerable in front of someone else.
STOP trying to quantify what you want in a partner. Love is not an exact science.
It’s a hell of a lot harder being who I am when the only matches I get on tinder are from people who are vacationing and then end up being 2498 miles away, or 75, or 621.
? you know it’s true
-2/10 for insecure, senseless over-pickiness with no clear value proposition.
Devil Dog wrote:
Imagine what women have to choose from.
American men are fat, sloppy, poorly dressed, poorly groomed, angry, sarcastic, and self-obsessed.
Men expect women to be in great shape, wear nice clothes, be done-up with make up and nice haircuts, have bubbly personalities, and to be loyal, supportive, and uplifting.
Take a look at every man you pass tomorrow. Disgusting. Most of them waddle because of their weight, but they all claim they hurt their knees in football. Tube socks. Cargo shorts. Giant cell phone clipped to their belt. Gut. Terrible facial hair. And within the last 60 seconds they probably farted, belched, or spit.
Once I realized I fit into one of those above demographics I sagged a wee bit. But you really included 100% of the male population there.
me:
- short
-no car
-poor/unemployed
also me:
-rich in spirit (just kidding)
-humble (just kidding)
dsfasd wrote:
It always turns out the men are losers (low income, short, no personality) and the woman are basically the same (fat, health issues, and so on). Normal people seem to do ok.
You can do something if you're fat. You can't do something if you're short.
women have it easier wrote:
dsfasd wrote:
It always turns out the men are losers (low income, short, no personality) and the woman are basically the same (fat, health issues, and so on). Normal people seem to do ok.
You can do something if you're fat. You can't do something if you're short.
Oh come on, for a mere 50k you can have your bones cracked apart and lengthened for a few more inches of height that will probably give you excruciating pain a decade or two down the road!!
Not accurate wrote:
I dont buy the single mothers only found out their ex/father of their children was a jerk well into the relationship. They chose the guy for a reason. They were attracted to jerks and bad boys, and that doesnt really stop when they finally date/marry a good guy out if economic and emotional necessity.
My high school and college days were miserable in terms of women. I was shy, largely because i was poor, with an incredibly abusive father who left home (thankfully) and a single mother with addiction problems. I was a 4:08 high school miler, a 3:40 1500 later on, and a very good student. Went to scholarship at a so-called prestige school on scholarship. I was reasonably good looking. No women back then wanted anything to do with a poor kid who was nice and polite, especially at a school with rich kids. I hit none of their criteria. I was nice and kind and polite because i had to be. I needed help, whether it was hitching a ride home from college, getting a summer job which was the difference between starvation or eating, or getting a student loan from a banker in town so my mother could pay back taxes and not be homeless, even though i really dudnt qualify. If i was a jerk, i wouldnt have stood a chance in life, although it was a sure way not to have any kind of dating life. Women so often opt for bad boys.
The world didnt have message boards back in my younger days and i ending up dating, and marrying, the first woman who paid me any attention. What did I know? She had a great figure - and still does - and is very bright. She is the offspring of two Holocaust survivors - again - what the hell did I know.? Not an easy lift psychologically. She views marriage entirely as an economic arrangement which also served as a vessel to push the kids to Ivy League Schools (which i paid for). Despite relatively low self esteem and study habits, i did exceedingly well in school, especially in graduate school - so much so i still feel like an impostor. I make about 400k a year, an income level i have had for twenty years, give or take, along with equity, too, which i never touch out of disinterest or ignorance. I could make more if i was focused on money, but my real kick is being competent. House is paid for, (a very nice 5 bedroom house), no debt, no car payments, big goals to beef up the 401k and liquid investments even more. My wife has zero respect for me, figuring out almost instantly that if you lob insults at a formerly horribly abused kid, it works. To listen to her, i am a complete loser. I learned not to be self-deprecating, because she takes it and runs with it to characterize me as a dumb slob. When i mention that I work hard at what i do and bring in a reasonable income, she says “so what, you are just doing your job, and shut up and keep at it”. I stayed without complaint because of the kids, who i love dearly, but clearly this nice guy thing rarely works out. I try not to generalize, but women take whatever they can get, and it doesnt bother them - i care about being a stand up guy - worth more than money - but that value orientation just sets me up and other guys up for more abuse. I used to think that there were women out there who wre kind and supportive, but i dont see it. Her friends are similar, with an entitlement mentality a mile long. Young guys should evaluate whther someone truly adds happiness before they commit, and if there is even a bit of doubt, error on the side of stopping the relationship. Clearly comments about my idiocy are expected, but really, i want young guys to recognize what they are facing.
And this is why the "just make money" thing is crap. It can "get" you women, maybe even attractive ones (physically). But it won't get you women that actually like you. Just ones that like what you have.
All of which adds up to a wife and relationship situation where she will be much likelier to cheat, more likely to cvck you, sex won't be because she is attracted to you but because it is an obligation, etc.
There is a reason why there are tons of O'Reily's, Weinstein's, etc. getting hammered for assault now; but you don't really ever hear or read about Brad Pitt's, Dwayne Johnson's, Jordan Barrett's etc. going down. The latter are attractive men. The reality is, for most women a slap on the ass by Brad Pitt isn't embarrassment, it's a sexy flirtation. When it's Harvey Weinstein though....it's repulsive harassment. The money and status of some of these guys getting taken down now gets women to have sex with them, but they aren't turned on by it and are far likelier to be repulsed by it down the road.
Dr. Dilemma I must first ask you what is wrong with you? You are 30 and still single... Do you still live with your parents? Or do you wear Asics? Please explain the whole situation or I cannot help you.
I think you are right. I am not intelligent. I think I did well in school and track (especially in school) despite a poverty stricken and abusive childhood because being able to focus intensely was a matter of survival from very early on. I have long felt an imposter among the wealthy and credentialed. None of this makes, however, for developing any capacity to choose people on a healthy basis, that's for sure.
Yes, I understand the 400k thing pisses Lets Run types off, because if there ever is an envious bunch, it is Lets Run posters, but frankly, if the average top level runner just moves the same focus they have on running to a reasonable field of endeavor (providing they like it), that kind of competence just attracts a decent salary. I never came looking for money, have never asked for any kind of raise from anyone,. I just focus on what I do and if the value is added I figure the money takes care of itself. And you must understand, my brother, with theame kind of background and experiences as I have, posts here from time to time. He makes me look like an absolute pauper, and while he is nationally renowned in his field, with a PhdD, he doesn't think he is particularly intelligent either. We came to our places in life just trying to survive. So I think you are right about both of us, although with each of us having a relatively low IQ and intelligence as you aver we are truly anomalies in our fields of endeavor.
As a higher IQ person than me and my brother, I appreciate your perspective. There is some karma despite it all. Our kids leave wonderful happy lives, and I live every day knowing that they never had violence, abuse, abject poverty, addiction and desperation visited on them - and this all, as you say, has come about despite not being intelligent. Perhaps your point is that emotional IQ is more important than analytic IQ, but as a low IQ type it is somewhat difficult to discern.
Cheers, and maybe you have caused me to think about striving for a bit more money. I could leave it to the next life, one way or the other.
Not accurate wrote:
... No women back then wanted anything to do with a poor kid ... i ending up dating, and marrying, the first woman who paid me any attention ... She views marriage entirely as an economic arrangement ... I make about 400k a year, an income level i have had for twenty years, ... House is paid for, (a very nice 5 bedroom house), no debt, no car payments, big goals to beef up the 401k and liquid investments even more. My wife has zero respect for me, ...
Sad to hear that, a woman married you "entirely as an economic arrangement", which is for your "400k a year". On the otherhand, the "House is paid for" and you have "no debt, no car payments". So why have "big goals to beef up the 401k and liquid investments even more", especially since your "wife has zero respect for" you.
Why not retire now and have "big goals to" do something you enjoy? Your wife may still not respect you, but at least you won't be her slave.
women have it easier wrote:
dsfasd wrote:
It always turns out the men are losers (low income, short, no personality) and the woman are basically the same (fat, health issues, and so on). Normal people seem to do ok.
You can do something if you're fat. You can't do something if you're short.
Sure you can. If your a short guy, you should plan getting a lot of money to make up for your lack of height:)
People discount their own failings (you should over look that I am short ) but not those in others (she is fat with bad breasts). It is a very human thing.
My advice is simple, do them from behind and do them hard!
shlongdude wrote:
Dr. Dilemma I must first ask you what is wrong with you? You are 30 and still single... Do you still live with your parents? Or do you wear Asics? Please explain the whole situation or I cannot help you.
I work a lot and have various women in my life that I have intimate time with. It's not like I've never kissed a girl or something. I just have not had much for serious relationships.
Dating after 30. Pick two, and only two. No more.
1. A woman who is beautiful.
2. A woman who is single.
3. A woman who is sane.
pick 2, no more wrote:
Dating after 30. Pick two, and only two. No more.
1. A woman who is beautiful.
2. A woman who is single.
3. A woman who is sane.
So wtf. So the only shot is to do what? You gotta go for the mature 23 year old chicks and show them a good time and wife them up. How fcked up is this world. Give a decent guy just one girl, wtf. That's how it worked the past 3000 years minimum.
Dr. Dilemma wrote:
I'm 30 and have gone out with about 20 different women in the last 8 months. I find that almost all available women in their late 20s and beyond either already have children or have significant psychological issues (or both). However, women in their early 20s are extremely annoying, to the point that I often would rather just get off myself then pay them a 90 minute visit because it isn't even worth it under that short of timeframe.
I'm having a tough time picking my poison. The negative traits of both age groups seem to be dealbreakers for me. :(
You don’t own women.
Women don’t owe you anything.
You should be grateful they even spend time with a sexist like you.
ProudSnowflake wrote:
Dr. Dilemma wrote:
I'm 30 and have gone out with about 20 different women in the last 8 months. I find that almost all available women in their late 20s and beyond either already have children or have significant psychological issues (or both). However, women in their early 20s are extremely annoying, to the point that I often would rather just get off myself then pay them a 90 minute visit because it isn't even worth it under that short of timeframe.
I'm having a tough time picking my poison. The negative traits of both age groups seem to be dealbreakers for me. :(
You don’t own women.
Women don’t owe you anything.
You should be grateful they even spend time with a sexist like you.
I'm sure you're really popular with men.