Let’s assume the runner is properly motivated and someone challenges them to train at 5:00 pace, 70mpw for 8 weeks. Can any runner in history pull that off?
Just to be clear, this is not the optimal what to train but hypothetically speaking, how much talent would you need to pull that off and part of talent is durability of course.
Could any runner in history run 70mpw at 5:00 pace for several months?
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I mean, idk how easy runs feel for Eliud.
But I think any person that runs 2:05 marathon or 26:50 could probably do this.
Now, several months is where it gets tricky.
But for some reason, I think a person like Eliud can run 50 min 10 miler every day and not be that tired.
It’s a medium effort ~20 seconds slower than marathon pace. -
It would technically be around 90 to 100 miles a week if you counted the warm up and cool down. I remember reading on this board that Kenenisa Bekele at his 5k/10k prime he did around 130 kilomters a week and most of that was done around a 5:30 min mile pace.
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yes, and lets say they were struggling they could take as many breaks as they wanted, if this was all they were tring to do with their life ofc it could be done
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Rauschenberg might have been able to do this during his peak when he was running 52 marathons in 52 straight weekends, impressing everybody with what one man was capable of doing. Other than Chuck Engle who made it to 50 marathons in 52 weeks, nobody has come close to this.
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Derek Clayton used to do 140ish mpw, lots of times consisting of 2 x 10 mile runs per day. He said if he could finish his runs in 50 minutes instead of 60, then he would do it just to get it over with. Not sure how literal to take that, but he probably ran a lot of miles on the hard side of easy, probably in the 5 minute range, and it was probably to his detriment.
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too hot wrote:
Let’s assume the runner is properly motivated and someone challenges them to train at 5:00 pace, 70mpw for 8 weeks. Can any runner in history pull that off?
Just to be clear, this is not the optimal what to train but hypothetically speaking, how much talent would you need to pull that off and part of talent is durability of course.
Steve Jones probably pulled it off most weeks in the 80s. -
http://run-down.com/guests/mv_el_guerrouj.php
This claims Guerrouj ran at 3:00 to 3:10 per km for all his runs from at least October till February 1996/1997
Could anyone do this today, I'm not so sure. -
This would be very doable for any elite male marathon runner.
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Rez wrote:
This would be very doable for any elite male marathon runner.
Agree, anyone whose marathon PR is sub 2:12 could get away with doing this at sea level. Get down to 2:03 marathon runners and 5 min/mile is on the upper end of their easy pace range. -
Derek Clayton and Ron Clarke probably did that and more all the time. Bill Adcocks and John Farrington probably did too. Sydney Maree likely did as well.
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ex-runner wrote:
http://run-down.com/guests/mv_el_guerrouj.php
This claims Guerrouj ran at 3:00 to 3:10 per km for all his runs from at least October till February 1996/1997
Could anyone do this today, I'm not so sure.
Agreed.
And... running 5 min pace in between 10x400 @ 55 is much harder than running 5 min pace everyday. -
too hot wrote:
Let’s assume the runner is properly motivated and someone challenges them to train at 5:00 pace, 70mpw for 8 weeks. Can any runner in history pull that off?
Just to be clear, this is not the optimal what to train but hypothetically speaking, how much talent would you need to pull that off and part of talent is durability of course.
Yuki! -
Can you break it up into as many runs as you want? It seems like running 20 half-miles per day with 45 minutes in between should be doable for an elite marathoner.
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Could they split the runs up into doubles? I'm sure that any globally-ranked 10,000m through Marathon runner could pretty easily do two runs/day of 7 miles at 5:00 pace.
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SWAZ wrote:
Could they split the runs up into doubles? I'm sure that any globally-ranked 10,000m through Marathon runner could pretty easily do two runs/day of 7 miles at 5:00 pace.
This came up as part of another thread, and the question was whether a runner could run 10 miles at 5:00 pace day in and day out. So no splitting it up. -
allsingles wrote:
SWAZ wrote:
Could they split the runs up into doubles? I'm sure that any globally-ranked 10,000m through Marathon runner could pretty easily do two runs/day of 7 miles at 5:00 pace.
This came up as part of another thread, and the question was whether a runner could run 10 miles at 5:00 pace day in and day out. So no splitting it up.
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someone with an 80 vdot at distance has a true recovery pace of 6:30 and a MP of 4:50
so yeah it would be rare but possible
but would be completely unproductive and possibly destructive as far as injury triggering -
all in the vdot wrote:
someone with an 80 vdot at distance has a true recovery pace of 6:30 and a MP of 4:50
so yeah it would be rare but possible
but would be completely unproductive and possibly destructive as far as injury triggering
It worked just fine for Ron Clarke.
