Shelby MF Houlihan - Unreal. She runs a 28.9 final 200 to PR by 4+ seconds and win Pre in 3:59.06!!

Shelby MF Houlihan, the 800 runner turned 5k Olympian, takes down 1500 specialists!!

Bra-ket wrote:

Shelby MF Houlihan, the 800 runner turned 5k Olympian, takes down 1500 specialists!!

I was thinking this spring - it sure would be good for her if she could get good at the 1500 as America seems to have no chance at 5k.

What a race. I had her 28.9 for the final 200. Sick. Her official final 400 was 59.86. Her pb coming in was 4:03.39. Her la

Place Athlete Affiliation Time

1 Shelby HOULIHAN 8 Feb 1993 United States 3:59.06 PB

2 Laura MUIR 9 May 1993 Great Britain 3:59.30

3 Jenny SIMPSON 23 Aug 1986 United States 3:59.37

4 Rababe ARAFI 12 Jan 1991 Morocco 3:59.51 PB

5 Winny CHEBET 20 Dec 1990 Kenya 4:00.60 SB

6 Linden HALL 29 Jun 1991 Australia 4:00.86 PB

7 Brenda MARTINEZ 8 Sep 1987 United States 4:02.65

8 Dawit SEYAUM 27 Jul 1996 Ethiopia 4:02.81 SB

9 Beatrice CHEPKOECH 6 Jul 1991 Kenya 4:05.36

10 Mary KURIA 29 Nov 1987 Kenya 4:06.07

11 Kate GRACE 24 Oct 1988 United States 4:07.10 SB

12 Laura WEIGHTMAN 1 Jul 1991 Great Britain 4:07.48

13 Zoe BUCKMAN 21 Dec 1988 Australia 4:08.75

14 Angelika CICHOCKA 15 Mar 1988 Poland 4:11.50

Dani JONES 21 Aug 1996 United States DNF

#5 performer on USA all-time list.

I don't know. Does setting a PR at pre really count?

Shelby is the least surprising American sub-4:00 runner since Shannon Rowbury. What is clutch is her perfect closing speed off of even a fast pace.

She will be 3:57-low by season's end.

59 last 400, 2:03 last 800

Simpson goes home devastated!!

Why wouldn't it? Hayward isn't as quick as some of the tracks in europe

If I were here the 1500 would be my primary event. She was a great 1500 runner in college then seemed to move up to the 5k. Though she’s run some solid 5ks it seemed a lil premature.

She was solid in the 400/800 in high school only fitting she stays 1500 for a while. Maybe move back to 5k in the next Olympics cycle but til 2020 she should stay put in the 15

BMart goes home SUPER Devastated!

Was she even in the same race?!?

Scorpion_runner wrote:

I don't know. Does setting a PR at pre really count?

It seemed to work out ok for Ms. Barringer.

Hayward is wind-gauge-roulette for sprints, slow for distance, except occasionally in evening.

What do YOU think? wrote:

Scorpion_runner wrote:

I don't know. Does setting a PR at pre really count?

It seemed to work out ok for Ms. Barringer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9egLaFa0o0U&feature=youtu.be&t=81

I feel you. It's just that americans always do well at pre, but then suck elsewhere. You know what I mean.

Shelby is one hell of a talent, but lets just keep things in perspective. I just take pre for what it is.

Prognosticator wrote:

She will be 3:57-low by season's end.

Whatever. I think it's enough to see one of the 4:03 gang finally move up. I was starting to wonder if any of them could.

I wonder who's next? Or is Houlihan it?

What do YOU think? wrote:

Scorpion_runner wrote:

I don't know. Does setting a PR at pre really count?

It seemed to work out ok for Ms. Barringer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9egLaFa0o0U&feature=youtu.be&t=81

Lol, look at all those Livestrong singlets.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

It's just that americans always do well at pre, but then suck elsewhere. You know what I mean.

I'm with you about keeping this in perspective, but I don't think you have to go to the other extreme and say that Americans only do well at Pre or that they suck elsewhere.

The real question is whether Houlihan will be able to deliver on the promise of today's race. To be crude about it, will she follow the Simpson/Uceny/Rowbury path or the Wirth-Thomas/Willard path?

It's nice to be able to finally ask that question with a straight face.

The road not taken wrote:

Scorpion_runner wrote:

It's just that americans always do well at pre, but then suck elsewhere. You know what I mean.

I'm with you about keeping this in perspective, but I don't think you have to go to the other extreme and say that Americans only do well at Pre or that they suck elsewhere.

The real question is whether Houlihan will be able to deliver on the promise of today's race. To be crude about it, will she follow the Simpson/Uceny/Rowbury path or the Wirth-Thomas/Willard path?

It's nice to be able to finally ask that question with a straight face.

I think you put Uceny with the wrong group of women.

vivalarepublica wrote:

The road not taken wrote:

I'm with you about keeping this in perspective, but I don't think you have to go to the other extreme and say that Americans only do well at Pre or that they suck elsewhere.

The real question is whether Houlihan will be able to deliver on the promise of today's race. To be crude about it, will she follow the Simpson/Uceny/Rowbury path or the Wirth-Thomas/Willard path?

It's nice to be able to finally ask that question with a straight face.

I think you put Uceny with the wrong group of women.

No he didn't. She was #1 in the world in 2011, and won the Olympic Trials the next year. Certainly #3 in that trio, and certainly a case of "what could have been", but she was a remarkable runner.

vivalarepublica wrote:

I think you put Uceny with the wrong group of women.

Well, you thought wrong. I put Uceny exactly where she belongs.