Which states have NOT had a sub 4 minute mile run on their soil?

Let's do a 9 sub 4's in 9 days with Centro challenge this summer

Obviously not the equivalent of 7 marathons in 7 days in 7 continents, but still appealing

Alaska just had their first outdoor sub 4 when Merber did it last September. There is actually a great documentary on the group of milers that went up to get it done...Merber, Alexander, Blankenship, Dunbar, and a few others.

Was Alaska the last state to see a sub 4 or are there still others?

IDK the answer to this one wrote:

Alaska just had their first outdoor sub 4 when Merber did it last September. There is actually a great documentary on the group of milers that went up to get it done...Merber, Alexander, Blankenship, Dunbar, and a few others.

Was Alaska the last state to see a sub 4 or are there still others?

Off topic, but related to OP....Garret Heath also ran in that junket to Alaska in search of the first sub 4...

Luxembourg.

Colorado has never had one. I think the record is 4:01.

Here’s a complete list of states

Alabama

Alaska

Arizona

Arkansas

California

Colorado

Connecticut

Delaware

Florida

Georgia

Hawaii

Idaho

Illinois

Indiana

Iowa

Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maine

Maryland

Massachusetts

Michigan

Minnesota

Mississippi

Missouri

Montana

Nebraska

Nevada

New Hampshire

New Jersey

New Mexico

New York

North Carolina

North Dakota

Ohio

Oklahoma

Oregon

Pennsylvania

Rhode Island

South Carolina

South Dakota

Tennessee

Texas

Utah

Vermont

Virginia

Washington

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Wyoming

Luv2Run wrote:

Colorado has never had one. I think the record is 4:01.

This sub-4 was in CO:

zzzz wrote:

Luv2Run wrote:

Colorado has never had one. I think the record is 4:01.

This sub-4 was in CO:

https://youtu.be/99W_u_Op4o0

Great vid. Not sure about Maine. Don't think Maine has had one.

zzzz wrote:

Luv2Run wrote:

Colorado has never had one. I think the record is 4:01.

This sub-4 was in CO:

https://youtu.be/99W_u_Op4o0

3:43 FTW!!!!!!

I don't think North Dakota has had a sub 4. At least the race organizer who's hoping for the fastest mile in ND history in a couple weeks thinks that getting close to 4 is all it will take to set the record.

with the usual caveat that my database may not necessarily be complete, and that additions and corrections are always welcome, the answer to this question is confused by the fact that I have some venues that are almost certainly in the United States, but there are several places with this name and I'm not certain which specific place is being referred to. those venues are: Carson, Chestnut Hill, Greenville, Hillsdale, Huntington, Johnson City, Lincoln, Lynchburg, Madison, Pontiac, Richmond, Rosemont, Springs, Uniondale, Williamsburg.

excepting those places, the states where I do not currently have a sub-4 are:

Colorado - mentioned in the thread but I don't have a result.

Delaware

Hawaii

Idaho

Maine

Mississippi

Nevada

New Hampshire

South Dakota

Vermont

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Wyoming

I have made no attempt to discrimnate between indoor and outdoor.

cheers

subzero is more like it wrote:

I don't think North Dakota has had a sub 4. At least the race organizer who's hoping for the fastest mile in ND history in a couple weeks thinks that getting close to 4 is all it will take to set the record.

Mike Slack ran 3:59.7i at Fargo, North Dakota on 26 Jan 1974. I don't have an outdoor sub-4 for the state.

cheers.

Didn't Dean KArnazes run a sub-4 mile in each of the 50 states in 50 days or something? That guy is so amazing...superhuman DNA

There has already been a long thread on this topic.

Cottonshirt wrote:

with the usual caveat that my database may not necessarily be complete, and that additions and corrections are always welcome, the answer to this question is confused by the fact that I have some venues that are almost certainly in the United States, but there are several places with this name and I'm not certain which specific place is being referred to. those venues are: Carson, Chestnut Hill, Greenville, Hillsdale, Huntington, Johnson City, Lincoln, Lynchburg, Madison, Pontiac, Richmond, Rosemont, Springs, Uniondale, Williamsburg.

excepting those places, the states where I do not currently have a sub-4 are:

Colorado - mentioned in the thread but I don't have a result.

Delaware

Hawaii

Idaho

Maine

Mississippi

Nevada

New Hampshire

South Dakota

Vermont

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Wyoming

I have made no attempt to discrimnate between indoor and outdoor.

cheers

Chestnut Hill -> probably they mean Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia where you could count any of the Penn Relays sub-4s

Greenville -> that's south carolina's sub-4 where in 2014 a bunch of NJNY guys did it at Blue Shoes mile

Huntington -> NY for Merber's Hoka Long Island Mile

Hillsdale -> Michigan, gina relays 2007 Rob Meyers

Johnson City -> Tennessee, some old meets at the ETSU oversize indoor track

Lincoln -> Nebraska, Lagat at the Adidas meet in 2002

Lynchburg -> Virginia, Asics invite 2007 Josh McDougal

Madison -> Wisconsin obviously, alan webb, also 2007

Pontiac -> Michigan, Jim Spivey at indoor NCAAs

Richmond -> Unfortunately gotta be Canada, where Mike Power ran 3:58 in 2003, I think Waleed Suliman's 4:04 last year is the Richmond VA record

Rosemont -> Illinois, Eamonn Coghlan 3:57 in 1985

Spring -> Texas, Len Hilton 3:57 1972

Uniondale -> New York hosted the Goodwill Games back when that was a thing in 1998, they also had the mile which had something close to an Olympics-quality field and Noureddine Morceli ran 3:53.

Williamsburg -> Virginia, Coghlan again in 1975 and a few people in '74

Carson: who knows. USATF outdoors was hosted in Carson, CA in 2005 but that was of course 1500 and I don't think anyone broke 4 there earlier.

Cottonshirt wrote:

with the usual caveat that my database may not necessarily be complete, and that additions and corrections are always welcome, the answer to this question is confused by the fact that I have some venues that are almost certainly in the United States, but there are several places with this name and I'm not certain which specific place is being referred to. those venues are: Carson, Chestnut Hill, Greenville, Hillsdale, Huntington, Johnson City, Lincoln, Lynchburg, Madison, Pontiac, Richmond, Rosemont, Springs, Uniondale, Williamsburg.

excepting those places, the states where I do not currently have a sub-4 are:

Colorado - mentioned in the thread but I don't have a result.

Delaware

Hawaii

Idaho

Maine

Mississippi

Nevada

New Hampshire

South Dakota

Vermont

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Wyoming

I have made no attempt to discrimnate between indoor and outdoor.

cheers

in addition to wisco, maine has also been sub4'ed, Graham Hood 3:57.98 July 6 2002 in Brunswick:

also just for kicks here's who might be the recordholders in the leftover states:

colorado: Ben Saarel 4:01.49 Feb 4 2017 in Boulder

delaware, hawaii: X

idaho: Chris O'Hare 4:01.66 Mar 10 2012 in Nampa (NCAAs)

mississippi: Brandon Doughty 4:00.53 May 3 2014 in Starkville

nevada: X

new hampshire: Steve Mangan 4:01.69 Mar 1 2014 in Hanover (Heps)

south dakota: Brad Lowery 4:01.67 May 6 2005 in Sioux Falls

vermont: X

west virginia: Simon Holden 4:09.12 Feb 12 2016 in Huntington?

wyoming: Ricky Faure 4:14.68 Jan 27 2018 in Gilette?

Dijon Gebremustard, I notice that your name is a pun on Dejen Gebremsekel. I look back with sadness on his races. He ran that one epic race in Paris. But hasn't done anything else. I don't know how he didn't at least win gold in 2012. It is crazy. I guess his gasket was burnt beyond repair from that 12:46.

Archives wrote:

There has already been a long thread on this topic.

Groundhog Day all over again.