Triple jump experts, how do you explain the huge gains by American record holder Tori Franklin who has PRd by 4 + feet?

Probably a combination of factors but this is a very technique-driven event. Improvements in technique could account for a lot.

And it looks like people who understand the TJ think she can go even farther.

https://twitter.com/JoynerAl/status/996142270792417280

Would you please list only the metric measurement. We need to get rid of the feet and inches and only report athletics marks in metric.

Stanley Allen Taylor wrote:

Would you please list only the metric measurement. We need to get rid of the feet and inches and only report athletics marks in metric.

Field eventers understand metric marks - I get it - but the average distance runner in the USA has no idea so I listed both.

I am no expert but competed as a junior in the TJ and have managed a T&F team - now an avid Athletics fan and ageing runner. Although as cynical as most about the sport - I agree with others - if this was 5000m runner - then hmmmm ... however the TJ is such a technical event I can easily see how a winter of conditioning, changes in technique, perhaps injury free winter .. could all come together in a perfect storm with a massive improvement. So unless there is some other compelling evidence (as lets face it - the question is about doping ??) such as association with a known dodgy agent or coach, then I will applaud her success and look forward to watching her compete at the next major champs.

Has she fallen in love over the past year?

Has she changed coaches over the past year?

Has she quit working a part-time job in the past year?

Has she lost weight in the past year?

Has she moved to a different training locale in the past year?

It appears quite a few of the women who jumped at this meet had exceptional marks and the wind readings were 0.0 for almost every jump. Quite strange.

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Albeit, you rarely see this big of a jump after at her stage, but the field events and hurdles can make big improvements with coaching. If she never had expert jump coaching in H.S. and college and is finally learning proper technique, that would explain a big improvement. It odd that the USA has been so woefully bad in the TJ for a long time when a sub-13 100m hurdlers or 21-foot long jumper can be converted to a world-class triple jumper in a season.

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Looking at data from indoors and connecting some other dots, unfortunately, I suspect Tori's recent jumps where windy.

TrackCoach wrote:

Looking at data from indoors and connecting some other dots, unfortunately, I suspect Tori's recent jumps where windy.

Yup, this is my explanation. The proof will be when she doesn’t come within a foot of that record ever again. It might sound harsh to say it, but it’s facts. She got lucky she competed at a meet with broken wind gauges. So congrats to her.

If you disagree, let me know when she jumps within a foot of her mark. I’d bet it never happens.

Serious suggestion wrote:

Has she fallen in love over the past year?

What does this have to do with anything??

sbeefyk2 wrote:

She got lucky she competed at a meet with broken wind gauges.

If this was true, wouldn't ALL the competitors have jumped PRs?

sbeefyk2 wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

Looking at data from indoors and connecting some other dots, unfortunately, I suspect Tori's recent jumps where windy.

Yup, this is my explanation. The proof will be when she doesn’t come within a foot of that record ever again. It might sound harsh to say it, but it’s facts. She got lucky she competed at a meet with broken wind gauges. So congrats to her.

If you disagree, let me know when she jumps within a foot of her mark. I’d bet it never happens.

That is a bet I will take, and as for 'but it's the facts' you have absolutely no facts, just supposition.

Many but not all of the jumps had winds of 0.0. This often happens when the winds are both light and come at right angles. A cross wind will not move the "wind needle" at all. Note that she beat a Gold medalist, although she had F F F.

Women, especially American women, often have woeful middle steps, giving up 20-40 cms right there. If that was an issue with her then that could account for a lot of improvement. If there is not a variable wind, it is easier to hit close to the end of the board -- which makes me thing that the Gold medalist from Valenzuela might have been collecting on an appearance fee and be off on her training, heavy in to weights for an early season meet (and troubles at home might be an issue).

Has she changed coaches? My wife jumped 19-1 in college. After college, we decided to keep training for fun with me coaching us. She improved every year for the next four years, ending with a 21-4 as her PR.

In her case, I had a completely different approach to building speed and strength than her (our) college coach did and made a huge difference for her. In a lot of ways we trained less intensely, but it was very different than her college training.

I dont know Franklin's story, but it wouldnt surprise me if it was different coaching.

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Has she changed coaches? My wife jumped 19-1 in college. After college, we decided to keep training for fun with me coaching us. She improved every year for the next four years, ending with a 21-4 as her PR.

In her case, I had a completely different approach to building speed and strength than her (our) college coach did and made a huge difference for her. In a lot of ways we trained less intensely, but it was very different than her college training.

I dont know Franklin's story, but it wouldnt surprise me if it was different coaching.

21-4 what? Inches??

Is someone posting for Rojo? This is written too coherently and with too few typos to really be him.

rojo wrote:

Field eventers understand metric marks - I get it - but the average distance runner in the USA has no idea so I listed both.

You're enabling their fanatical grip on stupidity. Give them the tough love they need.