Just saw Callum Hawkins utterly collapse and not a medical person in sight! Running a marathon in the heat with a start at 8:30am! Prayers go out that Callum is ok.
Just saw Callum Hawkins utterly collapse and not a medical person in sight! Running a marathon in the heat with a start at 8:30am! Prayers go out that Callum is ok.
What about the fans on the side. Instead of snapping photos with your phone how about trying to get the guy some water-with temps what they were somebody had to have a bottle of water to offer up
Or roll the guy in to the shade?! Literally fifty people standing around staring at the guy and filming as he lies in the middle of the road in direct sunlight.
Many times have seen when an athlete goes to that level it seems to be the end of their career. They will keep competing but they can never really push themselves to the limit again. Hope that is not the case here.
light of day3 wrote:
Many times have seen when an athlete goes to that level it seems to be the end of their career. They will keep competing but they can never really push themselves to the limit again. Hope that is not the case here.
You're an idiot. You have absolutely no comprehension of human physiology or the limits of the human body.
jenapharm wrote:
What about the fans on the side. Instead of snapping photos with your phone how about trying to get the guy some water-with temps what they were somebody had to have a bottle of water to offer up
True, but most of the supporters would have been worried about whether they would be allowed to give him assistance or not. They wouldn't want him to be disqualified. Ofc, the LRC response would be that he's clearly toast and had no chance of completing the final 2km, but bear in mind that the majority of the supporters have no marathon knowledge and are just locals enjoying the spectacle.
Never attribute to malice where a lack of knowledge will do.
Yes pretty bad, I realise the athletes can refuse help and the course is long but medical should have been there faster after the first collapse.
Scottish guy shouldn’t have gone out so fast in heat to try and beat Shelley who trains in this weather ?
Spectators weird, they probably didn’t know what to do but you’d think offer water or call volunteer instead of take pics.
Start was way too late, put spectator convenience ahead of athlete safety - several other athletes had issues
truebut wrote:
Never attribute to malice where a lack of knowledge will do.
100%. They didn't know if they could help or not. You can see Hawkins waving one official away
Ughhhhhh22 wrote:
Spectators weird, they probably didn’t know what to do but you’d think offer water or call volunteer instead of take pics.
pretty sure there was a volunteer standing under the umbrella just before the 40km marker (wide brim hat and blue/yellow shirt).
he doesnt do anything except look around so i could be wrong.
Crew love boy wrote:
light of day3 wrote:
Many times have seen when an athlete goes to that level it seems to be the end of their career. They will keep competing but they can never really push themselves to the limit again. Hope that is not the case here.
You're an idiot. You have absolutely no comprehension of human physiology or the limits of the human body.
What a strange reply. LoD3 was spot on. We’ve all seen this happen to many a runner. Get heat exhaustion/stroke and it seems to permanently impact the runner going forward.
lovelybones wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/commonwealth-games/43772265
Farcical, the race should have been run at least an hour earlier.
Seems like heat exhaustion to me. Remember Cheptegei at world XC a few years back? He was leading and his body started to shut down. This can happen to anybody, young or older regardless of experience. Usually happens to the toughest runners, who are very determined and inadvertently push themselves past their limits.
Shades of Jim Peters in the Vancouver Empire Games '54
I turned this off because I thought Hawkins had it in the bag but it appears I missed the highlights. Hope he is recovers from this. What a mess.
Not sure it is fair to blame spectators, there were clearly people trying to reach thru barrier to try to comfort him. People with no medical training or long distance running experience would have no idea what to do, and be worried about jumping onto the course. Also don't assume people with phones out were taking photos, may have been trying to call for assistace via facetime, hands free etc to try to convey seriousness of situation.
I do think there is a concern about how long it took to get officials and medics there. Even if the athlete is refusing help, they still should be able to get there within a minute or two for someone in such obvious physical distress.
Really hope the runner is ok.
Jefe in the CO wrote:
Crew love boy wrote:
You're an idiot. You have absolutely no comprehension of human physiology or the limits of the human body.
What a strange reply. LoD3 was spot on. We’ve all seen this happen to many a runner. Get heat exhaustion/stroke and it seems to permanently impact the runner going forward.
Alberto Salazar comes to mind.
In the attached article, the RD says ‘we can’t have help at every km...’(paraphrased). I think you could, easily. I would think that you could get MDs, nurses, paramedics to volunteer for a Games of this size. Give them a dorm room and meal pass and have them help out. If I had the credentials I would do it as a volunteer.
1) with only 24 runners, I would think you could have 24 medical cyclists following each runner; or,
2) (I don’t know the course, but even if it was point to point...) with 21 medical volunteers you could station one at every kilometre. After all athletes pass 1k, he/she is shuttled ahead to km 22, 2 km to 22... etc.As they all pass 21km, you could even have them doubled up, or every 500m as the risk gets higher closer to the finish.
Especially, the last 5 km, it is incompetent to not have water and medical staff at very frequent intervals. There were only 24 starters! That is just one case of water- it’s not 30,000 people running Boston.
That’s just off the top of my head, I’m sure there are other ideas/options.
This was a sickening mess and one that was terrible to watch. Game organisers for scheduling a marathon at 8:15am start! Not surprised a northern hemisphere athlete wilted in the oppressive heat! The lead vehicle would have already seen him fall and how he was all over the place but no one did anything. Shameful.