Peter Elliot the last non-African male to attempt to break a mid/long distance record (1990)?

I am not sure what your point is. Elliot did not make a serious attempt here. If Elliot made a serious attempt here, then Webb made a serious attempt in 2007. Cerón broke the world record in the half marathon in 1990, a year after Barrios broke the 10000m world record.

And of course the Brazilian da Costa broke the marathon world record in 1998.

Derrière wrote:

And of course the Brazilian da Costa broke the marathon world record in 1998.

da Costa is pretty dark to me. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

In our time, Jager's heartbreaker 8:00 steeple is the closest a real white guy has come to a legit WR. He was 2.3 seconds behind Shaheen's WR pace at the last barrier.

Derrière wrote:

I am not sure what your point is. Elliot did not make a serious attempt here. If Elliot made a serious attempt here, then Webb made a serious attempt in 2007. Cerón broke the world record in the half marathon in 1990, a year after Barrios broke the 10000m world record.

The OP would have been best to say "white guy" instead of "non-African" then it would make more sense. However, Gary Radcliffe would turn up and bore us to death.

Derrière wrote:

I am not sure what your point is. Elliot did not make a serious attempt here. If Elliot made a serious attempt here, then Webb made a serious attempt in 2007. Cerón broke the world record in the half marathon in 1990, a year after Barrios broke the 10000m world record.

He didn't make a serious attempt in that he didn't get close, but it was certainly billed as a serious attempt on the WR. With the benefit of hindsight, and the fact he never did get close to either the 1500 or Mile WR, then yes it wasn't a serious attempt, but many people thought that Elliot was capable that summer, and all the signs were that he would have been if he hadn't gotten injured.

Nobody had ever ran a 1:42 that early in a season before (not sure anyone has even now) and it was done after winning a major 1500 championship. Elliott had finally become a full time athlete, and it did appear he was ready to be the successor to Ovett, Coe, and Cram.

The above posted race was likely the last time in history athletics spectators would watch a distance race, hoping or even expecting the world record to fall at the hands of a non-African. That's pretty notable. So what's your point?

Derrière wrote:

I am not sure what your point is. Elliot did not make a serious attempt here. If Elliot made a serious attempt here, then Webb made a serious attempt in 2007. Cerón broke the world record in the half marathon in 1990, a year after Barrios broke the 10000m world record.

Dumb and dumber.

Nobody expected or even hoped Webb to get close to El G's world record, and he didn't - over 3 seconds outside. He wasn't being paced for a world record, and the promotors of the race didn't bill Webb's run as an attempt on the world record.

Coe ran closer to the 1500 world record in LA than he did in some of his 'world record attempts'. Does that mean his LA run was a world record attempt but the races where he was billed and paced for a world record were not WR attempts?

Wow are you stupid. I thought Elliot had been injured. Was that fake news? If it was not fake news, then who cares if a delusional Elliot thought he had a shot at a record. I am sure you must recognize that you are not very bright and you are cherry picking what is and is not a world record attempt. How would you even know what a world record attempt is? If a world record is broken, then it appears an attempt may have been made during the race. What an idiot you are.

This thread seems to be giving you a lot of difficulty lol. It's just a simple question.

babysteps wrote:

Derrière wrote:

Wow are you stupid. I thought Elliot had been injured. Was that fake news? If it was not fake news, then who cares if a delusional Elliot thought he had a shot at a record. I am sure you must recognize that you are not very bright and you are cherry picking what is and is not a world record attempt. How would you even know what a world record attempt is? If a world record is broken, then it appears an attempt may have been made during the race. What an idiot you are.

This thread seems to be giving you a lot of difficulty lol. It's just a simple question.

First of all, the OP was taken to the woodshed in ignominious defeat and then he decided that only he can capriciously ascertain what a world record attempt is. You are like the OP...none too bright.

Derrière wrote:

babysteps wrote:

This thread seems to be giving you a lot of difficulty lol. It's just a simple question.

First of all, the OP was taken to the woodshed in ignominious defeat and then he decided that only he can capriciously ascertain what a world record attempt is. You are like the OP...none too bright.

I wonder if you (the person who speaks out of his derriere) or some of the other morons commenting on this thread so far actually bothered to watch even the first minute of the video?

It was clearly billed as a world record attempt and Marty Liquori is asked at the start of the segment whether Elliott can do it, and he agrees yes that he is in the shape to do so. I'll take Liquori's word spoken minutes before the race over some twat who calls himself 'derriere' on a forum 28 years later.

The fact that an injured Elliott lost the race in rather stupidly trying to chase the WR, doesn't mean much. He still finished closer to the WR than Alan Webb did to El G's WR.

Stick your thoughts in your behind were they belong, or at least just stick to defending obvious African dopers.

You know, I think what really riles the ebony fetishists is the thougth that with ever improving testing and biological passport profiling, it might be another 30 years before we see an African make a serious attempt on a world record again.

Coevett wrote:

You know, I think what really riles the ebony fetishists is the thougth that with ever improving testing and biological passport profiling, it might be another 30 years before we see an African make a serious attempt on a world record again.

You are an idiot. Why are you so obsessed with race? Liquori’s job is partly to hype the race. Wow are you stupid. It might be another 30 years before you make a cogent observation you dim bulb.

Inferior Brit got dusted by unknown Kenyan at the Seoul Olympics.

Coevett wrote:

You know, I think what really riles the ebony fetishists is the thougth that with ever improving testing and biological passport profiling, it might be another 30 years before we see an African make a serious attempt on a world record again.

Karoki ran 58:42 just two months ago. Melly ran 1:05:04 in Prague less than 48 hours ago. I think they're doing fine.

Derrière wrote:

Coevett wrote:

You know, I think what really riles the ebony fetishists is the thougth that with ever improving testing and biological passport profiling, it might be another 30 years before we see an African make a serious attempt on a world record again.

You are an idiot. Why are you so obsessed with race?

A misplaced sense of superiority.

El Keniano wrote:

Inferior Brit got dusted by unknown Kenyan at the Seoul Olympics.

But the likes of Derierre don't have any problems with El Keniano and his constant blatant racism towards white runners.

Bit creepy really.

Oh, and Elliott was an injury wreck in Seoul and lost to a bum who got lucky on the day. Both him (Rono) and Ereng were probably juiced to the gills which would explain their one off performances.

A delusional John Walker also thought that Elliott was capable of breaking the mile record after Peter had ran the 1min 42sec 800m. Infact, Walker said that because Peter was in such great form, he really should have organised an attempt at the mile record shortly after his great 800m time.

Derrière wrote:

Coevett wrote:

You know, I think what really riles the ebony fetishists is the thougth that with ever improving testing and biological passport profiling, it might be another 30 years before we see an African make a serious attempt on a world record again.

You are an idiot. Why are you so obsessed with race? Liquori’s job is partly to hype the race. Wow are you stupid. It might be another 30 years before you make a cogent observation you dim bulb.

You're the one obsessed with race, and in particular self-hatred.

I post a simple historically interesting valid post regarding Peter Elliot's 1990 Bislett run being the last billed attempt on a world record by a non African runner, and I get the cuckolds, some of whom like you who are at least honestly referring to themselves as arses, jumping on me for rasheesim.