What? Is this true? Published report: Genzebe Dibaba is no longer coached by Jama Aden

Dibaba is clean

I saw this on twitter a few weeks ago actually. I didn’t know if it was true, though. She must have decided to cut ties with him after London.

The 3:50 WR was just far too obvious. That was her first mistake. It would almost be like a 5/10k guy running 3:28 and breaking the European Record.

Shades of her former self wrote:

The 3:50 WR was just far too obvious. That was her first mistake. It would almost be like a 5/10k guy running 3:28 and breaking the European Record.

Huh? How do you figure? Has she failed a drug test? Has she been sanctioned on her ABP? Has anyone implicated her in a drug scandal? She's probably one of most genetically gifted runners on the planet who trains very hard. ?

CDA wrote:

I saw this on twitter a few weeks ago actually. I didn’t know if it was true, though. She must have decided to cut ties with him after London.

I think a more obvious answer would be that perhaps the federation or the reporter has it wrong.

rojo wrote: Since the UK media can be sued, does anyone think the use of the word "disgraced" is incorrect for Jama Aden? How in the hell is he disgraced? He's never been charged with a doping offense.

you quite rightly point out that the British press can be sued for libel if they print defamatory things that are not true. in this particular case, use of the word "disgraced" is true. Jama Aden was arrested, and it has been widely reported in the press that he was found to have large quantities of EPO at the hotel he was using as his training base. whatever reputation he previously had, has been lost, and he has fallen from favour and lost both influence and status. these all meet the dictionary definition of "disgrace," which is:

disgrace n. loss of reputation as the result of a dishonourable action; a shameful or unacceptable person or thing; cause to fall from power or influence.

it isn't necessary to show that any of those things (arrest, being found with EPO etc) are themselves true. all that it is necessary to show is that the opinion of him has plummeted. which it has.

he has therefore been disgraced.

as to whether or not he is Genzebe Dibaba's coach, it is worth noting that the newspaper only quoted the Ethiopian Athletic Federation on this matter. it is the EAF who said Aden is not coaching her. personally, I would prefer to hear it from her, her coach, or her manager.

cheers.

Lets Think This One Through wrote:

Shades of her former self wrote:

The 3:50 WR was just far too obvious. That was her first mistake. It would almost be like a 5/10k guy running 3:28 and breaking the European Record.

Huh? How do you figure? Has she failed a drug test? Has she been sanctioned on her ABP? Has anyone implicated her in a drug scandal? She's probably one of most genetically gifted runners on the planet who trains very hard. ?

C'mon, we know how easy it is to fool the tests and testers. It's just more of an IQ test, really. As an Aden pupil, she put to bed one of the old doped Chinese records. Regarding a drug scandal, she and her sister were present at the time of the bust in sabadell. You'll note that her dominating performances also diminished significantly post sabadell. Agreed that she's every bit genetically gifted, and comes from an excellent pedigree considering her sister; but let's be rational about this. What happens when you put rocket fuel into a Ferrari? Look, I'm not going to convince you of my viewpoint; and you're not going to convince me of yours. It's as simple as that.

That means Muir will talk to her know? I would go back to doping instead of Muir talking to me.

Dibaba is clean wrote:

Dibaba is clean

LOL

Lets Think This One Through wrote:

Shades of her former self wrote:

The 3:50 WR was just far too obvious. That was her first mistake. It would almost be like a 5/10k guy running 3:28 and breaking the European Record.

Huh? How do you figure? Has she failed a drug test? Has she been sanctioned on her ABP? Has anyone implicated her in a drug scandal? She's probably one of most genetically gifted runners on the planet who trains very hard. ?

Einstein, "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not yet completely sure about the universe."

Dibaba is proof the sport is a joke, run by crooks.

Why was Kejelcha faster at 18? Because he wasn't being tested.

So every athlete who represents Ethiopia is a dirty amoral doper who will knowingly cheat in order to bring glory to themselves and their country?

Would anyone care to speculate as to the reasons for the staggering disparity between the morals of East African and western athletes? Does being raised within a certain culture give rise to the propensity to cheat? Or do the populace simple ape the compromised actions of their shady government for fear they will face torture and murder if they do not Bring home gold?

Honestly most of you posters make me shake my head with disbelief. Have any of you ever met or do you know anything about the Dibaba family or Almaz Ayana? After all you are “certain “ they are dopers so you must have privileged personal information to support this right?

I find it most interesting that No East African athletes seem to make doping allegations against their competitors. I’m sure conspiracy theorists will attribute this to the fact that every single one of them are dopers and therefore do not want to draw the spotlight.

As for the doped Chinese records that these athletes have surpassed, consider this. Until Ma’s army China had zero world class runners, suddenly they had Wang Junxia who broke the 10k,WR, existing 1500m WR (in coming second) and 3k WR all within 7-8 days! - Now THAT is obvious doping as no unassisted human can recover to run so fast again in such a short period. Nothing any of the East Africans have done can remotely rival this. - despite being genetically and culturally favoured to run fast over distance. Again something the Chinese have no pedigree in.

So just think a little prior to throwing around the doping tag, - it’s both lazy and ignorant.

"Look, I'm not going to convince you of my viewpoint; and you're not going to convince me of yours. "

You're wrong about that!

Kejelcha is slowing down wrote:

Why was Kejelcha faster at 18? Because he wasn't being tested.

Didn’t he just win world indoors? Ain’t doing too bad

No. But the chance someone in Ethiopia is dirty is probably more likely than most in the west.

Sure. East African athletes are much more desperate to earn a way of life through running than western athletes, so they're more likely to cheat.

Yeah. See above. I don't think all dopers are horrible evildoers who want to see the sport burn. I'm sure some of them got into it just trying to make a life for themselves.

I don't know about murder and torture, but I'm sure the bonuses from gold medals aren't bad.

Not "certain" they are dopers but taking down doped Chinese records sounds like a pretty daunting task to me. Ayana I suspect because of that, but it's not a super strong suspicion. Genzebe was coached by Aden, so that kinda wraps that one up. Strongly suspected, not "certain".

It's my personal belief that it's probably much more frowned upon to accuse others of doping over there. There's nothing to gain from making baseless accusations (see half the posters here) and I don't think Ethiopians feel like wasting their time making accusations that will probably never have any foundation.

Agreed.

"I find it most interesting that No East African athletes seem to make doping allegations against their competitors."

Not true. Go spend some time in Iten...or eldoret...or even Kaptagat.

3:50!

4 seconds faster than any know doper.

Of course he wouldn't have been using his ' vitamin' injections on her!

Meaningless Conjecture wrote:

As for the doped Chinese records that these athletes have surpassed, consider this. Until Ma’s army China had zero world class runners, suddenly they had Wang Junxia who broke the 10k,WR, existing 1500m WR (in coming second) and 3k WR all within 7-8 days! - Now THAT is obvious doping as no unassisted human can recover to run so fast again in such a short period. Nothing any of the East Africans have done can remotely rival this. - despite being genetically and culturally favoured to run fast over distance. Again something the Chinese have no pedigree in.

So just think a little prior to throwing around the doping tag, - it’s both lazy and ignorant.

Didn't Ma's army coincide with a similar boom in Chinese swimming? Did FINA ever get to the bottom of it?