WCAP Intl Eligibilty at Risk: IAAF Transfer of Allegiance

Why so negative?

Are the WCAP guys running the NCAAs? Are they in college?

They still had to go through basic training or officer training depending on whether they're officer/enlisted. More than you did. They have the possibility of being taken away from training to go back to the regular army in the event of a major conflict. And some of them were "real soldiers" before WCAP.

For example, Elkanah Kibet deployed and spent time in Iraq. More than your sorry ass has ever done for this country. Here's a great read for anyone interested.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/10/for-the-love-of-running-how-elkanah-kibet-went-from-a-deployment-in-iraq-to-21131-at-the-chicago-marathon-in-less-than-a-year/

Type Correction from previous post.

Sergeant Elkanah Kibet

FYI, Chelimo has been in the Army since 2014 so the IAAF mandatory 3 year wait wouldn't apply to him. (2014+3=2017). It's 2018 right now. And it seems like a bad idea to strip awards based on an ex post facto ruling. Now I know what you illiterates are going to retort. They strip medals retroactively from dopers!

Ya, doping was against the rules before they got the medal, they just didn't get caught.

You're trolling I think but for the 3 year wait is that since you last competed for another country?

None of the WCAP guys competed for Kenya as far as I know. All have lived in the US for years. Don't see how 3 year waiting period would affect them.

These guys have all been in US for more than 3 years. If you have to wait 3 years once you get citizenship I think that's a joke or they should be able to apply why they are waiting for citizenship. So King Ches could apply now and get it when he gets citizenship years from now.

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/birmingham-council-meeting-day-2

Lickety Split wrote:

- A warning to US Army WCAP & their Green Card holder recruits currently competing in the NCAAs: even if you achieve US citizenship given your enlistment in the Army you won't be able to compete until your last year given the IAAF's "Transfer of Allegiance" rule that requires waiting 3 x years until you compete for another nation!

- Hopefully the IAAF will make it retroactive and fake soldiers like Chelimo will not be eligible this summer to represent the United States.

- This is great new for the American running community!

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/birmingham-council-meeting-day-2

It's not like Chelimo and company are taking your spot. Why so raw?

Horrible racists. Everywhere. Spiteful little turds.

wejo wrote:

You're trolling I think but for the 3 year wait is that since you last competed for another country?

None of the WCAP guys competed for Kenya as far as I know. All have lived in the US for years. Don't see how 3 year waiting period would affect them.

These guys have all been in US for more than 3 years. If you have to wait 3 years once you get citizenship I think that's a joke or they should be able to apply why they are waiting for citizenship. So King Ches could apply now and get it when he gets citizenship years from now.

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/birmingham-council-meeting-day-2

- Trolls don't publish FACTS

- I did not see anything in the article that reflected a stipulation of "only if you hadn't previously competed for your home country in IAAF competition." Just because you have lived in the US for years has nothing to do with citizenship.

- The real joke is OUR US Army exploiting immigration loopholes like Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest (MAVNI) program to recruit NCAA "Green-Card" studs to enlist, grant them citizenship, assign them to WCAP, & sets conditions for them to never serve in the War on Terror as the program intends ... example w/Special Forces on the Somalia border.

- Cheserek: a selfish product of American benevolence ... HS donor scholarship & US taxpayer financed athletic scholarship --- turned his back on Kenya.

what now? wrote:

Are the WCAP guys running the NCAAs? Are they in college?

WCAP's model is to target NCAA athletes with green-cards that are either at or near IAAF standards to enlist and join WCAP. It's very easy to prove the model if you do the research on the following:

It's proven itself much more DISRUPTIVE to the American middle & long-distance running model than doping.

Trump's America wrote:

FYI, Chelimo has been in the Army since 2014 so the IAAF mandatory 3 year wait wouldn't apply to him. (2014+3=2017). It's 2018 right now. And it seems like a bad idea to strip awards based on an ex post facto ruling. Now I know what you illiterates are going to retort. They strip medals retroactively from dopers!

Ya, doping was against the rules before they got the medal, they just didn't get caught.

- It depends upon when he was granted American citizenship not when he enlists. From what I understand, the soldiers in the MAVNI program receive citizenship in ~ 6 months. Unfortunately, the IAAF won't ratify this until the summer thus Paul "The Clown" Chelimo is likely to continue representing our great nation at the expense of our REAL citizen-athletes with IAAF Standards. Ex. Ryan Hill.

wejo wrote:

You're trolling I think but for the 3 year wait is that since you last competed for another country?

None of the WCAP guys competed for Kenya as far as I know. All have lived in the US for years. Don't see how 3 year waiting period would affect them.

These guys have all been in US for more than 3 years. If you have to wait 3 years once you get citizenship I think that's a joke or they should be able to apply why they are waiting for citizenship. So King Ches could apply now and get it when he gets citizenship years from now.

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/birmingham-council-meeting-day-2

I interpreted the release that one would have to wait three years upon becoming a citizen, but it’s vague. If this was the case, it would all but squash the WCAP in its most recent form. The WCAP isn’t going to go out of its way to recruit and support a soldier (and let him live the good life, running year around in Woodland Park) if that soldier can’t make a USA team until their last year of service. No chance. The program is hanging by a thread as it is.

None of this would apply to the current WCAP guys that have already made USA teams. IAAF doesn’t have the will or fire power to enact that.

Perhaps you should find out and report back to us.

- Exactly

- I'm also hoping that Secretary of Defense Mattis' recent review of OUR Army's Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest (MAVNI) program would have made WCAP gun-shy on their recruiting tactics. That said, at least the SECDEF's efforts has disrupted SPC Lalang's citizenship intentions for now.

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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/12/24/new-in-2018-for-foreign-recruits-the-new-year-brings-few-answers/

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https://www.flotrack.org/articles/5067267-lawi-lalang-will-become-american-this-fall-but-cant-race-for-the-us-yet

Deer Lickety (my balls) Split:

I'm one of those guys who has/had/is at risk of a spot being taken. Thanks for your concern. I'm 100% in support of them competing for "my" spot, as I have no more claim to it than they do. I've beaten some of those guys before, and lost plenty as well. It's 100% on me to earn that spot and I have zero problem if they earn it. In my view, they have.

Thanks and please shut the EFF UP.

Please explain about all these NCAA athletes with Green Cards of whom you speak. Should be particularly interesting to read your response as they don't actually exist. Not saying the MAVNI/WCAP thing should exist, but you might want to get a few actual facts to support your position instead of some juvenile conjecture.

“Lickety Split” is such an A-hole. He has made similarly asinine posts on this topic in the past. I’m actually pretty sure this is the only topic he posts about. Total prick. Please ban him, Wejo.

Nope. WCAP sponsors NINE sports team, only one of which (track & field) is dominated by foreign-born citizens. All the rest (the majority of WCAP) are American-born athletes. WCAP is NOT a program designed for foreign-born athletes. It is available to all American citizens, including white, upper-middle class American born distance runners. All they have to do is join the Army. This they will not do because the typical white, upper-middle class American has more life options than the typical Army recruit.

TarjetaVerde wrote:

Please explain about all these NCAA athletes with Green Cards of whom you speak. Should be particularly interesting to read your response as they don't actually exist. Not saying the MAVNI/WCAP thing should exist, but you might want to get a few actual facts to support your position instead of some juvenile conjecture.

- FACT: The majority of WCAP's athlete-soldiers are targeted from NCAA programs where they enjoy scholarships funded by American taxpayers. As a result, these athlete-solidiers already possessed either F1 or H1B Visas to remain in the United States when they enlisted in the WCAP's fraudulent program.

One of those guys. wrote:

Deer Lickety (my balls) Split:

I'm one of those guys who has/had/is at risk of a spot being taken. Thanks for your concern. I'm 100% in support of them competing for "my" spot, as I have no more claim to it than they do. I've beaten some of those guys before, and lost plenty as well. It's 100% on me to earn that spot and I have zero problem if they earn it. In my view, they have.

Thanks and please shut the EFF UP.

- FRAUD!