This is a personal issue to me, as it affects someone in my family.
This is a personal issue to me, as it affects someone in my family.
My friend's son
I guess I should be more specific. A person in my family has a very fancy education with 2 advanced degrees from an Ivy, but she has resorted to alcoholism and quit multiple jobs as a result. She now lives with her parents and can barely attend an AA meeting.
We are all somebody.
George Walker Bush
I don't know how you're defining "nobody." I know a half dozen people with Ivy degrees. None has a substance abuse problem but none of them are doing or have done anything in their lives that would be atypical for someone with a degree from Wright State or Rowan.
Dan Quayle
random nobody wrote:
This is a personal issue to me, as it affects someone in my family.
Yep. Think they set up a crappy site about running.
Taught for a decade at a somewhat selective liberal arts college in the midwest. Our department was looking to fill a one-year visiting assistant position and one of the applicants was AB Harvard, DPhil Oxford--on a Rhodes Scholarship. Nice guy who'd bounced around since Oxford, in increasingly short stints at various positions. Nobody could quite figure out what the issue was and we decided not to hire him for fear of what baggage he might be carrying.
Thinkster wrote:
Taught for a decade at a somewhat selective liberal arts college in the midwest. Our department was looking to fill a one-year visiting assistant position and one of the applicants was AB Harvard, DPhil Oxford--on a Rhodes Scholarship. Nice guy who'd bounced around since Oxford, in increasingly short stints at various positions. Nobody could quite figure out what the issue was and we decided not to hire him for fear of what baggage he might be carrying.
This is what i'm talking about...an intelligent nobody.
most people don't live up to their potential, it's just the way of the world
I know a Harvard drop out working at a car dealership and living with his parents.
I surely qualify. Performed well at a top college and competitive Ph.D. program. Had interviews with Ivy departments for assistant professor jobs. Qualified for Olympic trials and Social Security Disability thanks to a brutal start in life that makes it
very hard to work effectively with people in general and especially those who have power over me. A strong intellect cannot override baked-in reactions that are miserable to endure.
I look like any other over educated stay at home parent. You have no idea what is in someone's background or head.
asians are awesome wrote:
most people don't live up to their potential, it's just the way of the world
I know a Harvard drop out working at a car dealership and living with his parents.
I know a Harvard drop out who owns Facebook
I dropped out of Harvard to save the rap game, but I'm not a nobody.
Seen the show Atlanta? Similar, although I guess he dropped out and given his background, may not have had a shot in the first place.
I had this exact same convo w/ my mom the other day. My mom said everyone from Northwestern (where my dad went, had a good career but was let go in his mid-50s and never recovered from it) was a success. I said you only hear about the successes, rarely the "failures."
Hillary Clinton
potatoe wrote:
Dan Quayle
What Ivy did he go to?
Might want to fact check
This is 40. wrote:
Seen the show Atlanta? Similar, although I guess he dropped out and given his background, may not have had a shot in the first place.
I had this exact same convo w/ my mom the other day. My mom said everyone from Northwestern (where my dad went, had a good career but was let go in his mid-50s and never recovered from it) was a success. I said you only hear about the successes, rarely the "failures."
This. Selection bias. We only see the successes. The averages are well...average. An average Harvard undergrad will earn a little more than an average grad from other schools. Plenty of examples of mediocre Harvard grads.
There was an article from a few years ago, written by a guy who worked in admissions at Yale, "Don't send your kids to an Ivy League school".
The idea of, "failure" was very real for parents trying to get their children into these schools:
"Because for the parents of Shaker Heights, nothing would be more horrible and ignominious for their progeny to attend Ohio State, and its med school, and end up a surgeon in Dayton."
Lil' PUMP wrote:
I dropped out of Harvard to save the rap game, but I'm not a nobody.
High school is not Harvard. I'm embarrassed I fact checked this fake news.
The real educated rapper is 2chainz. Kanye West dropped out. Childish Gambino has one of those fancy degrees but he ain't a real rapper.
It's hard to be good at school without a certain level of discipline, drive and intelligence, but school is not the real world. You can be good at school yet unable to achieve results in the actual world. This situation is not a rare exception in my experience.