I heard this claim on durianrider's youtube channel. He has his own personality issues, but I wonder if there's any substance to this rumor?
I heard this claim on durianrider's youtube channel. He has his own personality issues, but I wonder if there's any substance to this rumor?
Thread restored. I was looking at deleted threads and really think allowing doping threads leads to a cleaner sport. People can debate whether this is true or not.
You've got to give us links.
But here's an interesting one for you,
"In his back-and-forth talks with Dick Pound, the founding president of WADA, in 2012, Conte told the influential Canadian that “the biggest loophole that existed was the T/E ratio, and the fact that these WADA labs were not for the most part using the carbon isotope ratio (CRI) test as a screen test, but only as a confirmatory test. Meaning once you had, like say, (disgraced Tour de France cyclist) Floyd Landis an 11:1 T/E ratio, then they would take the samples and the carbon isotope ratio as a confirmatory test so they would have a stronger case when they went to arbitration.
“But I believe that the actual amount of screening or if they got any intelligence that somebody was using testosterone, less than 5 percent and likely less than 1 percent of the urine tests that were performed were where they were using this carbon isotope ratio test.
“So here’s what Dick asked me to do: He said I want you to give me a list of six athletes and coaches that you believe are using performance-enhancing drugs and what tests you would do, and how you would approach this. In other words, if you were king for a day what would you do with anti-doping? That was a specific question he asked me.”
Conte complied with Pound’s request. He named the following: coach Alberto Salazar and distance runners Galen Rupp and Mo Farah; sprinter Carmelita Jeter and hurdler Jason Richardson under John Smith; and Jamaican speedsters Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake and their coach, Glen Mills
The proof is in the pudding.
Conte complied with Pound’s request. He named the following: coach Alberto Salazar and distance runners Galen Rupp and Mo Farah; sprinter Carmelita Jeter and hurdler Jason Richardson under John Smith; and Jamaican speedsters Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake and their coach, Glen Mills.
“Here’s what I specifically advised that they do: Go back to the (urine) samples that were collected that are frozen for these athletes, you take a look at these performances, as an example, you isolate Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake,” Conte recalled. “You look at what they did in 2008. You look at what they did again at the world championships in Berlin in 2009, when the world records were set that still stand, both the 100 and 200 meters by Usain Bolt, and look at these times when Carmelita Jeter was running 10.64 (seconds, in the 100, at the 2009 Shanghai Golden Grand Prix) and all these extremely crazy times, and the same thing with Mo Farah . . .
“. . .Collect their samples before these championship races where they ran very fast and you do the carbon isotope ratio test for synthetic testosterone.”
As planned, Pound submitted the just-cited information to David Howman, WADA’s director general, stating, in the words of Conte, that “they could target these frozen urine samples and they could do these tests.”
The idea was rejected.
The reason?
“Basically, Dick Pound was told, ‘Are you kidding me? You think we want to destroy the entire Olympic movement?’ We’re not going to do those damn testings. So they showed no interest whatsoever in this,’ ” Conte recalled.
For Conte, WADA’s all-out rejection of what he proposed was hardly surprising.
100m wrote:
Wait a second: Why was the thread deleted in the first place? I had no idea about this. I personally believe that the sport should be either 100% clean or 100% doped, but not the way it is now. Honesty is important.
It's probably 50-50 since the advent of the ABP. Criminalize doping and you might actually get to 95% clean, IMO.
Speak Up wrote:
The proof is in the pudding.
Conte complied with Pound’s request. He named the following: coach Alberto Salazar and distance runners Galen Rupp and Mo Farah; sprinter Carmelita Jeter and hurdler Jason Richardson under John Smith; and Jamaican speedsters Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake and their coach, Glen Mills.
“Here’s what I specifically advised that they do: Go back to the (urine) samples that were collected that are frozen for these athletes, you take a look at these performances, as an example, you isolate Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake,” Conte recalled. “You look at what they did in 2008. You look at what they did again at the world championships in Berlin in 2009, when the world records were set that still stand, both the 100 and 200 meters by Usain Bolt, and look at these times when Carmelita Jeter was running 10.64 (seconds, in the 100, at the 2009 Shanghai Golden Grand Prix) and all these extremely crazy times, and the same thing with Mo Farah . . .
“. . .Collect their samples before these championship races where they ran very fast and you do the carbon isotope ratio test for synthetic testosterone.”
As planned, Pound submitted the just-cited information to David Howman, WADA’s director general, stating, in the words of Conte, that “they could target these frozen urine samples and they could do these tests.”
The idea was rejected.
The reason?
“Basically, Dick Pound was told, ‘Are you kidding me? You think we want to destroy the entire Olympic movement?’ We’re not going to do those damn testings. So they showed no interest whatsoever in this,’ ” Conte recalled.
For Conte, WADA’s all-out rejection of what he proposed was hardly surprising.
This deserves a re-post.
wejo wrote:
Thread restored. I was looking at deleted threads and really think allowing doping threads leads to a cleaner sport. People can debate whether this is true or not.
Well, they certainly lead to a less enjoyable sport.