As an ardent anti-doper, I welcomed many of Fancy Bears initial leaks but am always cognizant of the fact that they have a big time agenda. Their latest hack is a disgrace. They act like the IOC bribed Yuliya Stepanova to come clean. In reality, she risked her life to come clean and now needs protection.
https://en.news-front.info/2018/01/18/fancy-bears-leak-wada-offered-money-whistleblower-athletes/
Hajo Seppelt sums up my feelings pretty well in the following tweet.
How exactly does this not meet the definition of a bribe?
Asker of simple ?s wrote:
How exactly does this not meet the definition of a bribe?
She came clean on her own in 2014. In 2016, after her life was at risk, she talked to the IOC about payments to protect her.
It's not like she before hand said "Hey if you pay me a million dollars I'll make up a story about doping in Russia."
PS. Even if she did to that, she had tapes. So who made up the tapes? That's why this is a joke of a story.
Let's be honest here: "Fancy Bears" are hackers who directly for the Kremlin. They are not some rag-tag group of skilled teens. They hack for the Russian state as directed. They do not make decisions about targets or content.
DC Wonk wrote:
Let's be honest here: "Fancy Bears" are hackers who directly for the Kremlin.
Either that, or CIA operatives deluding low-IQ sheeple into thinking that.
OK, I'll be honest wrote:
DC Wonk wrote:
Let's be honest here: "Fancy Bears" are hackers who directly for the Kremlin.
Either that, or CIA operatives deluding low-IQ sheeple into thinking that.
And what possible benefit would the CIA garner from undermining Stepanova's testimony?
Taking a group calling itself "Fancy Bears" (a name coined by US intelligence for the authors of a set of hacking methods years ago) at face value is moronic. If APT28 were sponsored by the Russian government, it wouldn't be letting it make such a spectacle of itself.
Rather, the tools used by APT28 entered the wild the moment they were first used, and now, years later, they can and are used by anybody. Not that whoever these "Fancy Bears" are have anything to do with those methods; they just throw the name around because it gets them attention in the west. That's assuming there's a "they" at all, not just one person.
As for "risking her life," that crosses from moronic well into ignorant and bigoted coming from an American. Nobody has been executed in Russia in more than 20 years. The USA meanwhile has the world's highest incarceration rate and its police regularly murder people on the street for being black, poor, or no reason at all. Stop with the ignorant Cold War tropes.
Bad Wigins wrote:
As for "risking her life," that crosses from moronic well into ignorant and bigoted coming from an American. Nobody has been executed in Russia in more than 20 years.
Are you the only person in the world who doesn't know that extrajudicial killings are Putin's MO? This has nothing to do with being an American. Russian journalists, activists, and whistleblowers routinely die under mysterious circumstances. Hundreds of journalists have been mysteriously murdered:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090709092723/http://www.journalists-in-russia.org/. Defector Alexander Litvinenko was killed by Russian special forces while he was in the UK. And while we're on the topic of doping, Nikita Kamayev (former head of RUSADA) was apparently planning a book when he died suddenly:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/21/russian-anti-doping-nikita-kamayev-planned-book-allegedly. He died the same month as Vyacheslav Sinev, also a former RUSADA head.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Nobody has been executed in Russia in more than 20 years.
Quite possibly, and I mean this with absolute seriousness, the most moronic statement uttered on LRC in quite some time.
complete ignorance on display wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Nobody has been executed in Russia in more than 20 years.
Quite possibly, and I mean this with absolute seriousness, the most moronic statement uttered on LRC in quite some time.
Well, everyone on LRC knows BW is a pro-Putin troll. Just ignore what he says.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Taking a group calling itself "Fancy Bears" (a name coined by US intelligence for the authors of a set of hacking methods years ago) at face value is moronic. If APT28 were sponsored by the Russian government, it wouldn't be letting it make such a spectacle of itself.
Rather, the tools used by APT28 entered the wild the moment they were first used, and now, years later, they can and are used by anybody. Not that whoever these "Fancy Bears" are have anything to do with those methods; they just throw the name around because it gets them attention in the west. That's assuming there's a "they" at all, not just one person.
As for "risking her life," that crosses from moronic well into ignorant and bigoted coming from an American. Nobody has been executed in Russia in more than 20 years. The USA meanwhile has the world's highest incarceration rate and its police regularly murder people on the street for being black, poor, or no reason at all. Stop with the ignorant Cold War tropes.
More fake news and losing bigly Bad Wiggy!