Junior 800m World Record Holder's Coach/Dad Says Athlete's need to train more traditionally

Journey to Elite wrote:

He is obviously doing something right but what sort of principles do you think he is employing in training Max Burgin?

Lydiard?

It says right there in the article. Cross Country. etc. Doing all events to become more well rounded.

If you're not East African, you're not going to win the 800m at the Olympics. Facts

Stap wrote:

If you're not East African, you're not going to win the 800m at the Olympics. Facts

Yes only World Championsips, lol

Journey to Elite wrote:

He is obviously doing something right but what sort of principles do you think he is employing in training Max Burgin?

What coaching methods is his Dad using? Peter Coes?

Train more like Arthur Lydiard, like I have been saying. I've been saying that you need to build a aerobic base first and is most important part of training.

Stap wrote:

If you're not East African, you're not going to win the 800m at the Olympics. Facts

20-25 years ago they were saying that 800m was the only distance non-Africans had a chance at.

Build an aerobic base first? Why not just do every pace all year round in the right amount like Seb Coe did?

Aerobic base can always be maintained. It doesn't have to be exclusively trained.

Stap wrote:

If you're not East African, you're not going to win the 800m at the Olympics. Facts

Rodal, Borza, Schumann, facts.

Stop talking about the past. Certain ethnicities love to talk about the past.

many roads lead to Rome wrote:

Build an aerobic base first? Why not just do every pace all year round in the right amount like Seb Coe did?

Aerobic base can always be maintained. It doesn't have to be exclusively trained.

Even Seb Coe focused on building his aerobic base during the winter. I.e. periodization

Stap wrote:

Stop talking about the past. Certain ethnicities love to talk about the past.

hahaha. only reason certain ethnicities had won some 800 in the past 20 yrs was because of other certain ethnicities disinterest.

Roundabout wrote:

Stap wrote:

If you're not East African, you're not going to win the 800m at the Olympics. Facts

20-25 years ago they were saying that 800m was the only distance non-Africans had a chance at.

What sense does that make? How did non-Africans crush everything from 60 meters to the marathon then...in the past 20-25 yrs?

Wha??? wrote:

Roundabout wrote:

20-25 years ago they were saying that 800m was the only distance non-Africans had a chance at.

What sense does that make? How did non-Africans crush everything from 60 meters to the marathon then...in the past 20-25 yrs?

The evidence at the time was pretty good. Coe's record had withstood years where Africans could attack it and then three white guys won the Olympic 800. It seems reasonable that the statement was accurate.

Non-Africans haven't been dominating like you seem to suggest They may be showing that they can still be relevant.

Libertarian vegan wrote:

Train more like Arthur Lydiard, like I have been saying. I've been saying that you need to build a aerobic base first and is most important part of training.

Nobody has ever heard this before.

Coevett wrote:

Tightie Whitey wrote:

The evidence at the time was pretty good. Coe's record had withstood years where Africans could attack it and then three white guys won the Olympic 800. It seems reasonable that the statement was accurate.

Non-Africans haven't been dominating like you seem to suggest They may be showing that they can still be relevant.

They were probably saying that 25 years ago because the 800m is the least benefited by ped usage. Also, apart from the epo 90s, 1500m times aren't significantly faster than Coe, Ovett, Cram. Young white runers are starting to believe again. When this British lad reads one of you ebony fetishists claiming that white men can't run he can just has to click on YouTube and watch Coe runninig 1.41 40 years ago or Cram looking superhuman at the 1986 Commonwealths.

Your reading comprehension is poor.

Well said!

10/10 +

He's an early developer like so many other top British 800m boys.

His dad shouldn't be talking with such arrogance about a kid running 1:49.

When he's in the senior ranks we will see if he gets past 1:45/1:46.

It's a different ball game to take a talented junior to win international medals at a senior level, dealing with all the variables and the rounds Vs getting a talented junior to run some quick times as an under 17.

Roundabout wrote:

Stap wrote:

If you're not East African, you're not going to win the 800m at the Olympics. Facts

20-25 years ago they were saying that 800m was the only distance non-Africans had a chance at.

Wow these posts are looking dated. And not just because Stormfront has been forced offline.