So does the shark get blown up at the end?
So does the shark get blown up at the end?
Absolutely loved it. Thought the Luke thing was a good way to gracefully dispose of a character who had no place in the final episode, without making Kylo the guy who kills all of everyone's favorite, old characters. The twist with Holdo was excellent. The red salt under Crait's snowy surface was a beautiful touch. I know it was wrong, but the sexual tension between Kylo and Rey kept me really intrigued.
Young Code Master.......that was brilliant yet again to set up future generations!
Link wrote:
The Luke on ach-to might have been a projection. Remember when Rey was exploring the force in her lesson with Luke? She didn't sense him. Why? He wasn't there.
They literally said in the movie that she couldn't sense him because he had closed himself off to the force.
I was very disappointed in this movie.
I would have liked some explanation to who Snoke was but if the intention was for him to be a red herring to what was really going on then I respect that. If it was just one director sweeping under the rug what he couldn't make work from another then that's disappointing. Same thought for Rey
The Purple Hair Lady General- I like what her character did in the movie, but It could have been done better with Admiral Akbar. It would be more emotional for the fanbase since he's established and they wouldn't have to force a relationship with Leia. An example here is that the previous movies could have shown that relationship instead of telling about it. (I also feel that the purple hair doesn't fit the Star Wars Astetic)
Show not tell, that elementary writing. I think some of the plot points have been cheaply done through exposition rather than taking the time to show it.
Fin/Rose Subplot took way too much time and was unnecessary. I like how the audience had to have hope in a plan to lead us on for something else to happen, but all those scenes in the casino with the animals and stuff was too much. Didn't feel characteristic of a Star Wars movie.
However- I DO LIKE THE MOVIE
I'm very happy with the Luke/Rey/Kylo plot and thought it did well with doing something new and not rehashing the same thing.
I can live with some inconsistencies in the storyline and way too many side stories, but I can’t stand Adam Driver. He’s easily the worst actor of the lot and doesn’t do justice to the role. Maybe millennial sis think he’s cool, but he’s a second rate actor for this amazing franchise.
DC WONK wrote:
I can live with some inconsistencies in the storyline and way too many side stories, but I can’t stand Adam Driver. He’s easily the worst actor of the lot and doesn’t do justice to the role. Maybe millennial sis think he’s cool, but he’s a second rate actor for this amazing franchise.
I thought Adam Driver did a great job in the movie. Daisy Ridley's the best actor/actress in the movie, but Adam Driver is very good too. Kylo is a hot headed kid and Adam portrays that accurately.
G rating, cheap laughs, pushy liberal tones really brought this movie down... The Rose Finn thing seemed really forced (get it?). I think for all the liberal BS they actually don't want an interracial relationship with a white female lead... because when Rey met Poe it seemed like they were inferring they were interested in each other.
Also, I'm Asian but this movie made it seem like the galaxy just got a whole lot more... umm... Asian...
I don’t see you people don’t understand why Luke didn’t fight Kylo in person. Luke wasn’t going to give him the satisfaction of actually beating him. Luke died on his own terms. Luke schooled Kylo and taught him a final lesson while making him look like a fool. Luke’s fight against Rey showed that he could no longer keep up physically.
Imagine if this happened instead
Luke comes to fight kylo. Kylo obliterates Luke in battle. Rebels are demoralized and first order wins...
One of the big themes of the movie was about setting up the next generation. “What is a legacy? It’s planting seeds in a garden you will never see.”
And I really like the thing about Snoke and Rey’s parents. It was a good sort of “anti-twist”
Disney needs to make a Darth Bane movie series. Bane would kick Snoke, Ren, & Luke's a$$es.
Did anyone else really hate the forced comedic scenes in the movie? Right out of the gate there's a scene with Hux and Poe which just did not make it feel like a "Star Wars" movie.
I also really hated Hux in this movie. I was hoping he would get killed off. He just seems to young and too naive to be running the show.
I agree. Adam was a better villian than Hayden ever was as Anakin.
Daisy is just awesome - sorrow, pain, courage, bravery.
Seeing Yoda was great. I like how Luke just became one with the Force.
As far as the diversity component. I did notice that there was a diverse gender and racial mix. I liked that my kids saw that too. For Halloween my 8yo daughter was Rey. Even living in small town Texas, we've exposed our kids to various races and cultures. They've travelled a good bit too. So the movie only further reinforced that worldview for them. I don't think any of it was forced, but I think it was fairly balanced. Every representation exhibited strengths and weaknesses, which is accurate to humanity as a whole. ...okay enough philosophizing.
Excellent movie. I was literally tearing up at some parts.
capitalismisawesome wrote:
G rating, cheap laughs, pushy liberal tones really brought this movie down... The Rose Finn thing seemed really forced (get it?). I think for all the liberal BS they actually don't want an interracial relationship with a white female lead... because when Rey met Poe it seemed like they were inferring they were interested in each other.
Also, I'm Asian but this movie made it seem like the galaxy just got a whole lot more... umm... Asian...
I voted Trump and I'm very conservative, but I didn't really notice any liberal stuff. It was fine with me.
capitalismisawesome wrote:
G rating, cheap laughs, pushy liberal tones really brought this movie down... The Rose Finn thing seemed really forced (get it?). I think for all the liberal BS they actually don't want an interracial relationship with a white female lead... because when Rey met Poe it seemed like they were inferring they were interested in each other.
Also, I'm Asian but this movie made it seem like the galaxy just got a whole lot more... umm... Asian...
+1
I was disappointed in the use of the force in this movie. The most impressive use of the force in this film came from Princess Leia who saved herself from certain death. I expected Luke to have more showings of mind blowing force use and atleast one scene of him displaying otherworldly lightsaber skill. Also I was bothered by the fact that Master Yoda showed up and had to counsel Luke despite Luke being a Grand Master Jedi. I just think he should have accumulated enough wisdom in his old years to not have to be scolded like that. Luke should have been above Yoda at that point. Just my thoughts.
I thought Adam Driver was amazing in this one. He was way over the top in VII (inspiring the awesome emo kylo ren twitter), but in VIII he was emotional without being ridiculous.
Laura Dern was a pretty original character. I liked that they made her compassionate and feminine while also being a total badass. I can't recall ever seeing a female military commander in fiction quite like her. I loved that the movie tricked you into siding with Poe during his mutiny, before finally accepting that he's totally full of himself and has no idea what's going on.
Also, a very small part, but I thought Mark Lewis Jones as the captain of the Dreadnought was fantastic. Every imperial/first order officer has always been portrayed as the same type of priggish Brit. Jones brought a battle-weariness to his character that felt very authentic. It was subtle, and he only had a couple of lines, but I can honestly say it was the first time I ever felt any sympathy for an Imperial/First Order officer as he gets blown up.
I did think the casino planet was pretty lame. It felt like it was out of the prequel series. Too much glitz. It also returned us to one of the failings of VII, which was making the galaxy too small, where transit between distant worlds is almost instantaneous. It was especially jarring in VIII because it happened in the context of this really cool, slow motion space chase that was almost like something out of an 18th century naval battle.
I've also gotta say, I'm pretty darned confused about the political situation in the galaxy. The Hosnian system was destroyed, so that means the republic no longer exists? I had pictured the republic as the new galactic government, with the First Order controlling only certain areas (sort of like the Imperial Remnant in the novels). And it's very hard to believe that this resistance force is all they had (though I guess that criticism applies to the rebellion in IV as well).
Hux Sux wrote:
Did anyone else really hate the forced comedic scenes in the movie? Right out of the gate there's a scene with Hux and Poe which just did not make it feel like a "Star Wars" movie.
Yes, thank you for bringing this up. IV-VI had a decent amount of corny that was endearing, mostly because Harrison Ford could sell it. The jokes in VIII were terrible. It felt like they had a Marvel writer come on board. By the 2nd time they'd shown the puffin/birdie things I was rolling my eyes. They forced that joke about 5 times too many.
800 dude wrote:
It also returned us to one of the failings of VII, which was making the galaxy too small, where transit between distant worlds is almost instantaneous. It was especially jarring in VIII because it happened in the context of this really cool, slow motion space chase that was almost like something out of an 18th century naval battle.
Even more jarring given that Finn/Asian girl took the very same transports to light speed in order to reach the Casino Planet.
jhand366 wrote:
How is the thing about Rey's parents a cop-out? Whoever said she had to be related to someone?
There were so many parallels between Rey's and Anakin's backstories I thought for sure she would also be a Force child. That would have been cool. I did not want to see another Solo/Skywalker kid. This was a better option, although anti-climactic.
That and beating Kylo in VII is unprecedented. Highly trained vs. untrained. Even with Snoke's comment about Kylo being destabilized from killing Han. She literally had no training. Kylo should have beat her with his eyes closed. I thought it only made sense if she were unique.
Anyway, the best part about VIII was learning how Luke lost Kylo. The theme of the Jedi being flawed is great, and brings more dimensions to the light vs dark side of the Force.