Hoka or Altra?

I have the Hoka Bondi 4, 5 and Arahi. I also have the Altra Provision. My feedback is that the Hoka's are for running and Altras for walking...lol. Also, not a big fan of the Arahi. Not enough cushion.

HOKA is having much better results on the trails. Just look at

Jim Walmsley

Tim Freiriks

Tim Tollefson

Sage Canaday

Pretty damn impressive. And that's only the American kids.

If you overpronate then a high stack height, like in Hokas and some Altras, will only make things worse. Think about it: is it easier to balance on stilts?

Try ditching the support and learn to run in less or no shoe. Land on your midfoot. Strengthen your arch. Eliminate the need for any sort of external stability.

If any, I’d say go for a less supportive Altra such as the One or Instinct. But Hoka? The narrow toe box on those will cause all sorts of problems. More cushion is also not always better.

https://naturalfootgear.com/blogs/education/17890808-problematic-shoe-design-features

Altra for sure wrote:

If you overpronate then a high stack height, like in Hokas and some Altras, will only make things worse. Think about it: is it easier to balance on stilts?

Try ditching the support and learn to run in less or no shoe. Land on your midfoot. Strengthen your arch. Eliminate the need for any sort of external stability.

If any, I’d say go for a less supportive Altra such as the One or Instinct. But Hoka? The narrow toe box on those will cause all sorts of problems. More cushion is also not always better.

https://naturalfootgear.com/blogs/education/17890808-problematic-shoe-design-features

Have you tried Hoka's? The Bondi and Arahi's have good support. I should know since I have flat feet and they work for me. Fyi that I swore I'd never wear Hoka's because of their look but now, I can't wear anything else.

jskj wrote:

HOKA is having much better results on the trails. Just look at

Jim Walmsley

Tim Freiriks

Tim Tollefson

Sage Canaday

Pretty damn impressive. And that's only the American kids.

You forgot about Hayden Hawkes. Also a great Hoka Trail guy. Keep in mind that Hoka spends a lot more money on athletes than Altra and that's why they have had more success, not necessarily the shoe quality.

I prefer Altra's because of the the box myself, but have run in and enjoyed both brands.

I really love Altra. I have no more calf and foot injuries with the foot shaped toe box.

I also quit wearing toe pinching casual shoes and socks that squeeze my toes too much. Life is better!

Love the Hoka Tracer. All the other Hokas aggravated my knee problems. The Altra (One V3?) has the best toe box of any shoe I've ever worn. The rest of the shoe feels like cheap plastic. Shame they can't combine the two. Why doesn't every shoe company produce at least one model with the altra toe box??? Seems like a no brainer.

Ray wrote:

Love the Hoka Tracer. All the other Hokas aggravated my knee problems. The Altra (One V3?) has the best toe box of any shoe I've ever worn. The rest of the shoe feels like cheap plastic. Shame they can't combine the two. Why doesn't every shoe company produce at least one model with the altra toe box??? Seems like a no brainer.

Maybe because of patent issues?

Ray wrote:

Love the Hoka Tracer. All the other Hokas aggravated my knee problems. The Altra (One V3?) has the best toe box of any shoe I've ever worn. The rest of the shoe feels like cheap plastic. Shame they can't combine the two. Why doesn't every shoe company produce at least one model with the altra toe box??? Seems like a no brainer.

Tyler Mccandless just crushed CIM 3+ min PB in Altra One's...the concept is great if your tendons, ligaments can handle the flat profile. Me I'm back in supernovas, Pegasus although was thinking of using a new pair of Altras to rotate

Personal experience wrote:

Have you tried Hoka's? The Bondi and Arahi's have good support. I should know since I have flat feet and they work for me. Fyi that I swore I'd never wear Hoka's because of their look but now, I can't wear anything else.

Plurals of nouns and proper nouns ("Hokas" and "Arahis") don't require an apostrophe. Just because you are putting an S at the end of a word, don't make the mistake of thinking that you need to put an apostrophe behind it.

If confused, ask yourself this question: does the noun in question "own" whatever the next word is? If so, then you use an apostrophe.

In your case, the proper nouns in question ("Hokas" and "Arahis") are simply plural words. There is no ownership of anything, no apostrophe is required.

Hokas and Altras are rubbish. Quality control issues. The zero drop of Altras doesn’t agree with everyone. Go with a namebrand shoe/different Adidas model.

The only Altra worth a flip is the Escalante... that being said, it is my favorite shoe on the market right now. The TPU midsole is making EVA obsolete.

namebrands for the win. wrote:

Hokas and Altras are rubbish. Quality control issues. The zero drop of Altras doesn’t agree with everyone. Go with a namebrand shoe/different Adidas model.

boi... Your name is literally "name brands for the win..." shut up lmao. Don't get me wrong, I love to flaunt a good name brand. Where did you get your evidence that "hokas and altras are trash?"

I liked my Clifton 3s, but the midsole paint job is all over the place painting outside the lines. If they can't figure that out what else might they screw up shoe to shoe?

Random Apostrophes wrote:

Personal experience wrote:

Have you tried Hoka's? The Bondi and Arahi's have good support. I should know since I have flat feet and they work for me. Fyi that I swore I'd never wear Hoka's because of their look but now, I can't wear anything else.

Plurals of nouns and proper nouns ("Hokas" and "Arahis") don't require an apostrophe. Just because you are putting an S at the end of a word, don't make the mistake of thinking that you need to put an apostrophe behind it.

If confused, ask yourself this question: does the noun in question "own" whatever the next word is? If so, then you use an apostrophe.

In your case, the proper nouns in question ("Hokas" and "Arahis") are simply plural words. There is no ownership of anything, no apostrophe is required.

Thank's.

lazyboi wrote:

boi... Your name is literally "name brands for the win..." shut up lmao. Don't get me wrong, I love to flaunt a good name brand. Where did you get your evidence that "hokas and altras are trash?"

That’s all you got? No substance. I speak the truth. Their materials and quality control of their product is crap. Go with a brand that has money to do research and produce quality product. Adidas has the $$$. /END

jskj wrote:

HOKA is having much better results on the trails. Just look at

Jim Walmsley

Tim Freiriks

Tim Tollefson

Sage Canaday

Pretty damn impressive. And that's only the American kids.

Any real runner would dust these clowns.

namebrands for the win. wrote:

lazyboi wrote:

boi... Your name is literally "name brands for the win..." shut up lmao. Don't get me wrong, I love to flaunt a good name brand. Where did you get your evidence that "hokas and altras are trash?"

That’s all you got? No substance. I speak the truth. Their materials and quality control of their product is crap. Go with a brand that has money to do research and produce quality product. Adidas has the $$$. /END

Look, I don't mean to turn this into an argument. But how do you think big brands like Nike, adidas, etc got their start? They were once small companies and they were doing the same thing that smaller companies are now doing, researching ways to revolutionize the industry. If smaller brands didn't have enough money for research and innovation, they wouldn't be in business and people wouldn't be buying their shoes.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good name brand. I wear them all the time, especially adidas for style. However, I'm looking for something exclusive to running. I'm a bit brand-sensitive (I won't wear skechers or fila because they're crap) but I read up on some smaller, less "mainstream" running companies and I've grown to like them.

theJeff wrote:

The only Altra worth a flip is the Escalante... that being said, it is my favorite shoe on the market right now. The TPU midsole is making EVA obsolete.

For their road lineup I would have to agree with you.

However they are coming out with a 3.9 oz racing shoe called the Vanish-R, and it seems pretty awesome. Also, there will be an Escalante Racer.

Even better, though, Skora is back in stock. Their shoes are apparently superior in durability, and I can't wait to try them!