TIGER WOODS IS BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at the driving distance stats. Tiger is about 264. Don't talk out of your rear end unless you can back it up.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Hate the game, don't hate the playa.

In the words of the great Ric Flair...

"To be the man, you gotta beat the man and I'm saying, right here in the Bahamas pal, I'm the man"

He's in the Bahamas, playing golf, doing well, has hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank, a huge yacht and fame you will only dream of.

You're posting on the letsrun message boards. (well, so am I...lol)

YetTiger is a miserable person. The more you read about him and hear from him the more you realize how incredibly unhappy he is as a person.

Always was and will be wrote:

YetTiger is a miserable person. The more you read about him and hear from him the more you realize how incredibly unhappy he is as a person.

As opposed to you; you clearly are very happy with your life which is why you spend time posting about how miserable other people are!

truthseakr wrote:

His mind is shot...It's all mental.

Wow. Amazing insight. How often do you and Tiger get together and chat? Maybe you could get me his autograph next time?

Pretty amazing that Trump (USA) didn't go golfing (in Florida), in the wake of a tragic event.

President Donald Trump opted not to golf at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday despite the beautiful weather, citing respect for the victims of the Florida school shooting.

Tiger is not going to get anywhere near his pre 2008 form. He was pretty great in 2013 too.

The big problems are 1) he doesn't drive it straight enough and 2) his putting is just average now. He used to be automatic within 10 feet. Now he isn't. He'll have some good weeks but has too many flaws to win a lot anymore.

None of this should detract from the obvious fact that he is the greatest professional golfer ever.

Despite his past troubles in his marriage, with his injuries and surgeries, and with prescribed pharma (doctors are street-level pushers--thousands get caught in the addictive traps they set), he is still a golfer with 79 wins under his belt, including all those majors and wins in the WGC's that always had tough fields. What we're seeing is a man coming back from extended downtime. Once he gets the rust out, I think we'll see him routinely making cuts and getting some top-tens. Although, I get the nagging sense that he might throw in the towel at some point and retire. That could just be my fear and projection. I'm a huge fan of his golf, ever since he was an amateur when he was unbeatable in the U.S. Amateur, and dread it all coming to an end. The PGA seemed lackluster when he was out.

14 majors but still the greatest wrote:

Tiger is not going to get anywhere near his pre 2008 form. He was pretty great in 2013 too.

The big problems are 1) he doesn't drive it straight enough and 2) his putting is just average now. He used to be automatic within 10 feet. Now he isn't. He'll have some good weeks but has too many flaws to win a lot anymore.

None of this should detract from the obvious fact that he is the second greatest professional golfer ever after Jack Nicklaus.

Just fixed that for you there...

I can certainly see him playing good golf on the tour again. But I agree that he could easily retire soon. I don't thinking making cuts and some top 10's will be enough for him. If he thinks he can't win consistently, then I can see him retiring. It's not like he needs the money finishing 40th brings.

Golden Bear: The GOAT wrote:

14 majors but still the greatest wrote:

Tiger is not going to get anywhere near his pre 2008 form. He was pretty great in 2013 too.

The big problems are 1) he doesn't drive it straight enough and 2) his putting is just average now. He used to be automatic within 10 feet. Now he isn't. He'll have some good weeks but has too many flaws to win a lot anymore.

None of this should detract from the obvious fact that he is the second greatest professional golfer ever after Jack Nicklaus.

Just fixed that for you there...

Nicklaus did well for his era. He competed against about 10 other good players and a bunch of nobodies. Golf was still incredibly racist during his dominant years and there wasn't much competition from overseas.

The fields Tiger competed against are much, much stronger. Most of the guys Nicklaus played against couldn't quality for the secondary tour these days.

Nicklaus was sort of like a 4:30 miler competing in a weak state and winning a lot. Commendable but impossible to regard him as anything near the best.

BillyBillyBilly wrote:

The PGA seemed lackluster when he was out.

It did at first, but with the current crop of young guns, led by Spieth and Thomas, I think it's pretty exciting again. These guys are also more likable than Woods. Interviews with him are just terrible; he's so guarded, non-open, and fake.

lollerama wrote:

BillyBillyBilly wrote:

The PGA seemed lackluster when he was out.

It did at first, but with the current crop of young guns, led by Spieth and Thomas, I think it's pretty exciting again. These guys are also more likable than Woods. Interviews with him are just terrible; he's so guarded, non-open, and fake.

They lack charisma. They're dull. They play well, but they lack je ne sais quoi. The likes of Tiger, Trevino, Michelson, Palmer, Player, Nicklaus, and Ballesteros (and a few others) bring that something extra to their play that leaps off the TV screen, and brings ratings.

BillyBillyBilly wrote:

lollerama wrote:

It did at first, but with the current crop of young guns, led by Spieth and Thomas, I think it's pretty exciting again. These guys are also more likable than Woods. Interviews with him are just terrible; he's so guarded, non-open, and fake.

They lack charisma. They're dull. They play well, but they lack je ne sais quoi. The likes of Tiger, Trevino, Michelson, Palmer, Player, Nicklaus, and Ballesteros (and a few others) bring that something extra to their play that leaps off the TV screen, and brings ratings.

Hey I agree - Mickelson is my favorite player, and has been for a very long time. But I like Spieth, Thomas, Fowler, and a few others. I don't find them dull. It's Woods that, although admittedly incredible to watch in his prime, always seemed like a douche.

.... also, I love watching golf and I'm in trouble if I can't find anyone new to like. It's starting to not be fun watching Mickelson struggle to make cuts, although he's player a *little* better in his last few starts.

lollerama wrote:

Hey I agree - Mickelson is my favorite player, and has been for a very long time. But I like Spieth, Thomas, Fowler, and a few others. I don't find them dull. It's Woods that, although admittedly incredible to watch in his prime, always seemed like a douche.

Je ne sais quoi has nothing to do with niceness or doucheness, or controlled emotions vs. expression, or even beauty vs. ugly. It's something that you see and can't stop looking at it, but one can't define exactly what it is. The same way in that Dustin Hoffman could steal the scene from any number of handsome actors acting opposite of him.

He's back alright...heading for the Champions Tour.

14 majors but still the greatest wrote:

Nicklaus did well for his era. He competed against about 10 other good players and a bunch of nobodies. Golf was still incredibly racist during his dominant years and there wasn't much competition from overseas.

The fields Tiger competed against are much, much stronger. Most of the guys Nicklaus played against couldn't quality for the secondary tour these days.

Nicklaus was sort of like a 4:30 miler competing in a weak state and winning a lot. Commendable but impossible to regard him as anything near the best.

This article really lays out the difference:-

Just points 1 & 2 are enough to put the Tiger argument to bed:-

1. Jack was second-best the most

Nicklaus finished second in 19 majors, and Woods has six runner-up results. Nicklaus had 48 top-three finishes at Slams, twice as many as Woods.

2. The competition

Overall, the current depth of fields and reach of international talent exceeds that in the days of Nicklaus. There are more talented golfers coming from more diverse locales, but very few of Woods' contemporaries have stepped up in majors. The two active players with more than three major titles – Phil Mickelson and Ernie Els – are rarely direct rivals for Woods. Nicklaus, on the other hand, played with Gary Player (nine majors), Tom Watson (eight), Arnold Palmer (seven), Lee Trevino (six) and Seve Ballesteros (five). While Nicklaus finished second more than 10 times to players on that list, Woods' runner-up finishes have been to one-hit wonders like Trevor Immelman, Zach Johnson, Rich Beem, Y.E. Yang and Michael Campbell. There have been few worthy adversaries.

Also incredibly compelling is their Augusta records. You just can't argue with those stats...

Tiger = Greatest hyped up by Nike golfer of all time.

Nicklaus = Greatest golfer of all time full stop.

One tourneyatatime wrote:

It's going to be awhile before Tiger returns to form. One can't miss all that time due to injury and surgeries and expect to come back and win, let alone a top ten. I'm not getting ahead of reality on this return. Though I would love to see him kick butt again, I'm taking it one tournament at a time and not expecting him to be anything but mediocre for awhile. I wish him the best.

If his problem is physical then why does he continually shoot great one day and bomb the next? His problem started when he 'fell from grace' with the press and public over the adultery allegations. It's all in his mind....

Nicklaus was competing against what amounted to 10 man fields. Beat those guys and you were guaranteed to win because everyone else was terrible. In Tiger's era, every player in the field has the ability to win. Players have to beat 140 top players, not 10.

Mickelson 5 and Els 4 majors would be 8-10 majors each (if not more) in Nicklaus' era. Btw - McIlroy has won 4 majors.

And the golf courses they played on in Nicklaus' era were very different. Guys making full shoulder turns on 6 foot putts at the Masters.