I wish race directors would limit prize money to US citizens only.
Really, to be honest a lot of these races shouldn't even allow international competition. it's just too shady for a dude to fly in from Africa to run a 2:20 marathon when the athlete isn't even in the testing pool. Plus it hurts Americans who could of gained a sponsor for showing up and placing first only to be out-shown by a foreign doper, so stupid.
The illinois marathon in Champaign illinois has the exact same issue. Every year a group of untested africans show up and win the damn race, they sign up last minute too. The race claims to test the athletes however they can't afford that and only say that as a scare tactic. QUITE STUPID.
Or you could run faster. Excuses.
IllinoisPhotographer wrote:
I wish race directors would limit prize money to US citizens only.
In theory I agree, but when you look at the circumstances of these folks from Kenya deal with, I'm happy these dudes get the cash. It may not be fair, in theory, but that bit of cash can go a LONG way back in Kenya. It can provide for a lot of people.
Ujena Fit Club:
"Although he’s now 31, Julius has no intention of retiring from competitive running any time soon. “As long as my body is good, I will keep running, “ he says. He thinks he has 8-9 good years of racing left in his legs.
Larisa Mikhaylova, his agent in the United States, and a former international competitor for Russia in the 800 meters (her best time was 1:57:17 and she was ranked in the top 10 in the world in ’97, ’98 and ’99), works with 15 runners, male and female, who come from Kenya, Ethiopia, Morocco, Russia and the Ukraine."
Back woods wrote:
Or you could run faster. Excuses.
I mean this is a microcosm for the country in general. Instead of working harder to compete with foreign nations we want big govt to step in and level the playing field.
Good job guys. That’ll show em American superiority!!
John Utah wrote:
IllinoisPhotographer wrote:
I wish race directors would limit prize money to US citizens only.
In theory I agree, but when you look at the circumstances of these folks from Kenya deal with, I'm happy these dudes get the cash. It may not be fair, in theory, but that bit of cash can go a LONG way back in Kenya. It can provide for a lot of people.
Troll
Microcosm wrote:
Back woods wrote:
Or you could run faster. Excuses.
I mean this is a microcosm for the country in general. Instead of working harder to compete with foreign nations we want big govt to step in and level the playing field.
Good job guys. That’ll show em American superiority!!
Troll
Microcosm wrote:
Back woods wrote:
Or you could run faster. Excuses.
I mean this is a microcosm for the country in general. Instead of working harder to compete with foreign nations we want big govt to step in and level the playing field.
Good job guys. That’ll show em American superiority!!
Forgetting the running thing, you do realize that "working" involves paying people money in this country. What is your suggestion when other countries use slave labor (in addition to all kinds of other cost benefits such as not providing health care, safe working environments, etc.) and then sell products at lower price points?
And let's be honest here, there are not very many 2:20 marathoners who are being tested on a regular basis here in the US. We are talking about second-tier, sub elite two near elite runners. These guys may occasionally get tested from time to time if they earn some money at some midsize the decent size racist, but otherwise there's no comprehensive testing program for people in this range.
Plus, things worked out just fine here. I was associates and what is the rate and he was disqualified. You could've just as easily been done via testing the winners post race. Most race directors won't do that because of the expense, but it would be more effective than simply relying upon nonexistent testing procedures for those Who run in the 2:20 range.
Yes, everybody should get on the drugs so they can compete with these guys.
Runners World : "The runners suspended this year by Athletics Kenya haven't been among the country's best. Biwott is a 2:26 marathoner; she won second-tier marathons in Germany and Finland last year. Basweti is a 2:14 marathoner who won the 2007 Austin Marathon.
Basweti has the same management company, L.M. Elite Running Club, as Nixon Cherutich, who is one of the runners suspended last month. The U.S.-based company is operated by former elite Russian runner Larisa Mikhaylova. "
Unrelated, but I would love to be able to run the times of these second-tier, sub-elite runners.
For the record, I was using those terms not to be disparaging toward obviously talented runners, but to distinguish them from the runners who are racing in national championship races and winning major events and those who are subjected to regular scrutiny by the sport's governing bodies (as compared to those who win races like this - well known, but still primarily regional races that offer up prize money and usually don't do testing).
WLWT: " If they don't win, Mikhaylova, herself the 1998 European Cup champion at 800 meters, said she sometimes takes a loss.
"A very hard business," she said.
And grueling. Her athletes take on aggressive schedules to maximize prizes. In 2014, Mariita churned through 24 races in 13 states, including three weekends in March, April and October when she raced on consecutive days, according to the Association of Road Racing Statisticians.
Her U.S. race earnings soared to $24,000 that year - more than what 99 percent of Kenyans earn back home."
"because it seems that the main argument about doping is EPO, I continue to maintain my position about this kind of doping : for top athletes, with top training, born, living and training ALWAYS in altitude, it doesn't work.
But if you read all my posts, you must remember that ALWAYS I said steroids can bring the body at a level of muscle strength that NEVER can be reached with training only. And, other thing, when an athlete is able to reach a level of muscle strength higher than the "Natural possible level", it's not so difficult to maintain this kind of level, also without doping anymore. "
L.M's earlier athletes were busted for anabolics and Renato seems agree that anabolics work.
And the 2 elite 2:18 female marathoners that were caught were using EPO or some ppar chemical, so invalid argument.
John Utah wrote:
Microcosm wrote:
I mean this is a microcosm for the country in general. Instead of working harder to compete with foreign nations we want big govt to step in and level the playing field.
Good job guys. That’ll show em American superiority!!
Forgetting the running thing, you do realize that "working" involves paying people money in this country. What is your suggestion when other countries use slave labor (in addition to all kinds of other cost benefits such as not providing health care, safe working environments, etc.) and then sell products at lower price points?
YOU as a consumer need to reject products from companies like that. If YOU truly care about the working conditions and labor that went into YOUR final product YOUwill have no issue paying a bit more for a company that conducts business a certain way.