I suspected Rupp's 2:09.20 Chicago win would not be among the best 100 times this year in marathoning. Following Amsterdam, Rupp fell back several more spots, given that a lot of guys finished nearly a mile ahead of his virtual showing.
Does anyone think Rupp will be among the top 100 following Fukuoka?
https://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/marathon/outdoor/men/senior/2017
How many of them medalled at the Olympics?
ukathleticscoach wrote:
How many of them medalled at the Olympics?
Or won a world marathon major this year?
he won a major marathon and collected some series coin.job well done. move along
Beautiful Day wrote:
I suspected Rupp's 2:09.20 Chicago win would not be among the best 100 times this year in marathoning. Following Amsterdam, Rupp fell back several more spots, given that a lot of guys finished nearly a mile ahead of his virtual showing.
Does anyone think Rupp will be among the top 100 following Fukuoka?
https://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/marathon/outdoor/men/senior/2017
And Geoffrey Kirui is only 57th on the list, yet he's won Boston and Worlds this year. What's your point?
I do know he will be a WMM champion something only 4 other of those guys are
Centro's Olympic 1500 winning time isn't even ranked. Not even in top 1000 of all time 1500s.
Dude we get it, you hate Rupp and you're upset that he won Chicago. You don't need to start a new thread about it every day.
I bet you rank XC times too.
lucky ducky wrote:
And Geoffrey Kirui is only 57th on the list, yet he's won Boston and Worlds this year. What's your point?
Where's the answer to this one, Beautiful Day? And where are you, scorpion runner?
Except that you are ignoring the conversion factors from the hot temperatures in Chicago, how fast Rupp closed, the fact that Rupp beat the WR holder in the marathon, got 2nd in Boston, and almost got gold in the Olympics, so that Rupp's 2:09:20 converts to a much faster time. With the right conversion factors, Rupp is at least in the top 5 fastest marathon time this year and probably would be number 1, with a slight question mark about whether he's actually faster than Kipchoge or not. However, given their ages, Rupp will just get faster and Kipchoge will get slower so in a head to head matchup I would take Rupp over Kipchoge. All Rupp knows how to do is win.
Conversion factors ...
Is this new 'new math' I've been hearing about? Everybody must win?
The Rupp haters really need more consistency
You guys hate him for winning a WMM because he's "cheating"
You guys also claim that he's only a 2:09 guy so he's slow - 66/63 split is "not world class".... Ryan Hall was faster. So he's not cheating? Unless Ryan Hall was also cheating?
Wouldn't a fast time AND winning a WMM be a better indication of cheating?
Beautiful Day wrote:
Conversion factors ...
Is this new 'new math' I've been hearing about? Everybody must win?
Oh hey, you're back. Can you address my question regarding Geoffrey Kirui?
Boston was slow, and Worlds was slow. Which reminds me, Dennis has run over 6 minutes faster than Rupp.
And did you see the times at Amsterdam? Just saying.
Beautiful Day wrote:
Boston was slow, and Worlds was slow. Which reminds me, Dennis has run over 6 minutes faster than Rupp.
And did you see the times at Amsterdam? Just saying.
So Geoffrey Kirui is slow? Then why did 2:04:11 man Tamirat Tola lose to him by over a minute at worlds? According to your list Tola should have won by like 4 minutes, you know because all courses and races are equal.
Yes I did see the multiple 2:05s at Amsterdam. It's amazing what you can do with pacers, and flat course, and perfect weather. Makes me wonder what Rupp could run if he were in a race with all of those things. Especially considering he keeps beating 2:04/2:05 guys.
The way you guys twist and contort yourselves is something.
I beat Rob DeCastella in 1985. Am I better than he is? No way. You guys seem to think that if your guy beats the world record holder, he's the de facto world record holder. Good luck with that one!
The following thread is awesome. Someone said if you took six Ryan Halls and six Galen Rupps, the Rupps would all run mid-2:09, and the Halls would finish anywhere from 2:05 to 2:10, with a DNF.
The way I look at it, if you lined up every elite marathoner who competed this year ON THE DAY THEY RACED, and they somehow all raced at once, Galen Rupp might lose to more than 100 guys.
Beautiful Day wrote:
The way I look at it, if you lined up every elite marathoner who competed this year ON THE DAY THEY RACED, and they somehow all raced at once, Galen Rupp might lose to more than 100 guys.
Again, you can't just look at season bests from the year and say that #20 would destroy #80 (just picking random numbers). A. Kirui, Lemma, and B. Kipyego all ran 2:07 in the spring and are in the 40s on the list, but then got blown away by 2:09 man Rupp in Chicago. So what, you're just going to pretend that didn't happen and that those three are still better than Rupp?
Nope.
If you apply the right conversion factors Galen Rupp has already run 2:02.43, making him the world record holder. He could retire today as the greatest distance runner the world has ever known.