Instead of writing the Week That Was this morning, I've been procrastinating by reading Japanese websites via google translate. I came across an article that I think says Yuki Kawauchi twice ran a 100 with a running start in spikes and only ran 13.9.Can a Japanese speaker tell me if it's true?Here is the text:
daily.co.jp wrote:
https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/915231200977068033Google translates that as:
I happened to have had the opportunity to happen to measure the record of 100 meters, run twice, both recorded 13 seconds 9. "I also ran with spikes, but I ran into it ...". As there is a theory that the average of high school boys is about 14 seconds 5, as Athlete athlete's mediocre time it is "pretty bad, no jumping power and no instantaneous power, it is the opposite of Kenyans," she said.
Full article here:
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2017/09/13/0010551895.shtmlthe legend of Kawauchi continues!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW talk of endurance beast. Whats his 800/mile?
Well why not? That's what I would expect of a Japanese marathon runner. When these threads come up about "what's the slowest 400 time needed to run a sub 4 mile?" etc, the usual replies are based on what a typical runner with a decent kick can do.....unrealistic answers that don't address the issue of how much speed endurance a slow twitcher can have.
What did the Brownlee brothers run in that 100m race with Mo Farah? It was 14s wasn't it?
speed endurance wrote:
Well why not? That's what I would expect of a Japanese marathon runner. When these threads come up about "what's the slowest 400 time needed to run a sub 4 mile?" etc, the usual replies are based on what a typical runner with a decent kick can do.....unrealistic answers that don't address the issue of how much speed endurance a slow twitcher can have.
What did the Brownlee brothers run in that 100m race with Mo Farah? It was 14s wasn't it?
12.98
You just know Kawauchi was doing his survival head wobble to make it look like he was working harder than he really was.
He's probably worth a 13 flat without the histrionics.
core wrote:
What did the Brownlee brothers run in that 100m race with Mo Farah? It was 14s wasn't it?
12.98[/quote]
No, that was Farah's time. The Brownlee brothers were 14.3 and 14.7 weren't they?
I try so hard! wrote:
You just know Kawauchi was doing his survival head wobble to make it look like he was working harder than he really was.
He's probably worth a 13 flat without the histrionics.
Hmmm, Farah ran 12.98.
speed endurance wrote:
When these threads come up about "what's the slowest 400 time needed to run a sub 4 mile?"
Which makes as much sense as "what's the 100 meter time I need to run 100 miles in less than 12 hours?
For a long time, Japanese has been known for its culture of humility.
When he said 13.9, it's probably more like 12.9 or 11.9.
Actually Kawauchi could only ruh 3:50 1500m, which is a far cry from a sub-4 mile.
Calculoless wrote:
speed endurance wrote:When these threads come up about "what's the slowest 400 time needed to run a sub 4 mile?"
Which makes as much sense as "what's the 100 meter time I need to run 100 miles in less than 12 hours?
Not really. "what's the slowest 400 time needed to run a sub 4 mile?" is actually an interesting and worthwhile debate. Whereas "what's the 100 meter time I need to run 100 miles in less than 12 hours?"..?...not so much.
speed endurance wrote:
Well why not? That's what I would expect of a Japanese marathon runner.
+1
speed endurance wrote:
Calculoless wrote:Which makes as much sense as "what's the 100 meter time I need to run 100 miles in less than 12 hours?
Not really. "what's the slowest 400 time needed to run a sub 4 mile?" is actually an interesting and worthwhile debate. Whereas "what's the 100 meter time I need to run 100 miles in less than 12 hours?"..?...not so much.
Really. 400 time to mile comparisons are foolish.
Nonsense iCal wrote:
speed endurance wrote:Not really. "what's the slowest 400 time needed to run a sub 4 mile?" is actually an interesting and worthwhile debate. Whereas "what's the 100 meter time I need to run 100 miles in less than 12 hours?"..?...not so much.
Really. 400 time to mile comparisons are foolish.
Running in the same direction round and round a track is foolish.
If you're gonna argue, say something worth reading.
can you imagine the stride frequency of the typical short stride length Japanese marathoner that could go near 12-flat?
Bolt - 41 steps
typical sprinter- 45 steps
Yuki- 100 steps, maybe
rojo wrote:
Instead of writing the Week That Was this morning, I've been procrastinating by reading Japanese websites via google translate. I came across an article that I think says Yuki Kawauchi twice ran a 100 with a running start in spikes and only ran 13.9.
Can a Japanese speaker tell me if it's true?
Here is the text:
daily.co.jp wrote:https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/915231200977068033Google translates that as:
I happened to have had the opportunity to happen to measure the record of 100 meters, run twice, both recorded 13 seconds 9. "I also ran with spikes, but I ran into it ...". As there is a theory that the average of high school boys is about 14 seconds 5, as Athlete athlete's mediocre time it is "pretty bad, no jumping power and no instantaneous power, it is the opposite of Kenyans," she said.
Full article here:
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2017/09/13/0010551895.shtml
You know Brett Larner reported on this in English last month here:
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2017/09/kawauchi-leaves-for-oslo-after-trying.htmlHis PB is 13.1. Based on the quote ("for real") in Larner's article, I'd think neither it nor the 13.9 were with a running start though -- that looks like a Google translate error.
Sledge_hammer wrote:
For a long time, Japanese has been known for its culture of humility.
When he said 13.9, it's probably more like 12.9 or 11.9.
Probably 9.9
13.9 is converts to 15.1 out of blocks which is slower than 4 out of 5 members of Gaki no Tsukai. Japanese will know what I mean. I posted the episode a while back so you can search it up on these boards. Enzo was fastest at about 13.45 FAT. Only Yamazaki was slower than 15.1.
My theory for why untrained Japanese are so naturally fast is they're skinny.