Ryan Hall should not be a head high school coach.

And, to be clear, I wasn't saying earlier that I thought he'd be good or bad. Rather, I was replying to the sentiment that since he was a high level racer, he should be at the college level as an assistant because his talents would be wasted on HS runners.

coach hall wrote:

Ryan Hall should be a D1 assistant coach.

Why in God's name would he want to work 35-40 weekends a year, travel all the time and be away from his family for 35-40k per year?

Plus as an assistant, he'd spend all of his nights on the phone recruiting. I can't think of a worst job for a well to do guy with a young family.

You might have said the same thing to Mike Grant when he started out.

http://www.startribune.com/sportsperson-of-the-year-grant-a-winner-on-and-off-the-field-dec-25/286815911/

(PS. His father is Bud Grant)

otter wrote:

I'm curious why most of you don't think he would be a good coach?

I'm not sure he'd be a bad coach, but as far as I'm concerned there is very little correlation between athletic ability and coaching ability. The main reason why so many coaches are former top athletes is that being a top athlete is the easiest way to get your foot in the door. And Ryan Hall in particular, as some here have already alluded to, had rather unconventional training methods during his time as an athlete. He wouldn't be the first elite I'd go to for training advice.

Yeah someone that brainwashed by a fairy tale sky wizard should not be working with kids. Im sure he's a nice guy but the church propaganda is astonishingly disturbing.

I'm sure he makes a fine HS coach. All he has to do is repeat work outs he's learned over 20 years of running. He's had plenty of good coaches himself.

I used to bag on Ryan too but at least he tried to win races. He wasn't complacent just showing up and getting a top 10 paycheck. I don't think his training methods let him down. His body just had too much.

Ass_in_assistant wrote:

I hear God really writes the workouts, Ryan just holds the stopwatch.

It really should be the other way around.

My take:

-He was well coached at Stanford. He was an ultra-elite only when he stepped up to the 1/2 marathon and marathon distances but he has quite a bit of experience training as a miler / 5000 meter runner. He has certainly learned enough to be coaching at the high school level.

-I'm sure he is going to be better than 95% of HS coaches even during his first year.

-He has shown he can work with people and be empathetic through his charity work.

Being a good high school coach is all about giving back. A lot of you have also mentioned some great qualities as well. I think he can handle it and I think he is doing it for the right reasons.

I never really understood the dislike for Ryan on these boards but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would be very happy to have my kids coached by Ryan and as a high school coach I welcome him with open arms.

I'm not into the church but love is love. He is doing good with his life. I wish him luck.

Ryan's dad was a pretty successful high school coach in his own right. I am sure that Ryan has many quality resources to refer to and seems like he would make a terrific high school coach.

Even more reason for him not to be the coach. Conflict of interest.

Shoebacca wrote:

Except if you actually read the very detailed source articles available about this coaching gig you quickly learn that his daughter goes to this high school and runs for their team. All your theoretical musings are rendered useless when faced with the reality of things.

Pretty simple actually wrote:

Even more reason for him not to be the coach. Conflict of interest.

[quote]Shoebacca wrote:

You make a good point but it depends on how he approaches that.

I had my daughter on one of my teams and I think it was harder on her than it was on other kids because I knew that if she didn't follow the rules than nobody would.

It's going to sound strange and maybe difficult to believe but I can remember not really thinking of her as my daughter at practices or in meets. I guess you have to go through that to understand it. I mean we were and are really close outside of that environment.

Having just read the article it sounds to me like he's already a great coach. I hope and imagine he will create a very fun program that may inspire some kids to be tomorrow's elites.

He was a pretty good runner in high school himself. That's some more relevant experience.

rojo wrote:

coach hall wrote:

Ryan Hall should be a D1 assistant coach.

Why in God's name would he want to work 35-40 weekends a year, travel all the time and be away from his family for 35-40k per year?

Plus as an assistant, he'd spend all of his nights on the phone recruiting. I can't think of a worst job for a well to do guy with a young family.

Are you crazy? I can't even think of a worst job.

ROJO for reals! When you respond to a post and your first instinct is to preface that response with incredulity, as in "Why in God's name" or with your more favored starters "Are you serious?" and "Are you crazy?" ... well, just STOP.

STOP, hit the brakes, and DON'T RESPOND THAT WAY. Because it reinforces that you're an idiot, which many here already suspect.

Fentrekker wrote:

Good on him for stepping up. Period.

This.

Ryan Hall is a dirty doping cheat every bit as guilty as Rupp. Him and his Doc Brown prescribed thyroxine and what ever else he was taking (probably testosterone considering his low levels now) should be allowed nowhere near kids coaching jobs.

prudence right left wrote:

Yeah someone that brainwashed by a fairy tale sky wizard should not be working with kids. Im sure he's a nice guy but the church propaganda is astonishingly disturbing.

Haha You're a tool. You do know that some of the most successful, well-loved HS coaches out there believe follow God right? Historical Christianity isn't a fairy sky wizard you ignoramus.

Good luck making sure all your kids teachers and coaches are atheists.