Bosse and Kszot are probably the slowest in oure 400m speed, in the 47-48 secs range, base speed. So somewhat like Cram, from the past, it shows you can be at the top, eso. in Champs situation with prelims, without blazing 400 speed -below 46 seconds.
Ghost1 wrote:
Bosse and Kszot are probably the slowest in oure 400m speed, in the 47-48 secs range, base speed. So somewhat like Cram, from the past, it shows you can be at the top, eso. in Champs situation with prelims, without blazing 400 speed -below 46 seconds.
Kszczot has run 46.5
Sorry for the typos. Bosse, Kszot and the Brit probably the slowest in pure 400 speed ability. Bosse and Kszot, pure specialists over two laps. The Pole told Bosse, after the race, 'you stole the race from me!' to which PAB replied, 'no, I am not a thief!'
Kszczot looks like a demon with his crazy eyes and contorted faces. He had the most hate. But the Frenchman had the most fear and went a bit faster.
Bosse, nowhere near 46 seconds. He slowed down least, and maintained form the best. In France, coaches focus on 'travail de pied' meaning footwork, and all the dynamics re foot placement, and general biomechanics.
Sorry for mis-spelling the Pole's name. All those consonants, confusing. Bravo Polska!
Much easier in Cyrillic, Кщот
Bosse, nowhere near 46 seconds. He slowed down least, and maintained form the best. In France, coaches focus on 'travail de pied' meaning footwork, and all the dynamics re foot placement, and general biomechanics.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Kszczot looks like a demon with his crazy eyes and contorted faces. He had the most hate. But the Frenchman had the most fear and went a bit faster.
Actually, a pretty good description. Kszczot has wide eyes I wonder what he is thinking and his name is a scrabble winner. I thought Bosse had committed Championship suicide by going wide and early down the back straight. An 800m is usually won up the home straight (the 1500m is usually won 300m-400m out).
pretty sure bosse could break 46 for 400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrcnL_SH9J0
Unless coming through in 47.xx through 400 in a 600m doesn't mean that much lol
An old Polish guy moves to America and goes to get a drivers license. The vision test is first and the examiner shows him the letters
P R Z X W Z S K T V and asks him if he can read them off.
The old Polish guy goes: "I actually know him!"
800ftw. wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:Bosse and Kszot are probably the slowest in oure 400m speed, in the 47-48 secs range, base speed. So somewhat like Cram, from the past, it shows you can be at the top, eso. in Champs situation with prelims, without blazing 400 speed -below 46 seconds.
Kszczot has run 46.5
Kszczot's 400 PR per his IAAF page is 47.00, albeit several years ago, but it looks like his 1500 is where he's made real improvement in the last few years (3:48 --> 3:38). I'd believe sub 47, but 46.5 seems a little bit too fast.
Bosse has a slight edge over Kszczot in the 1000, a bigger edge in the 800, and a proportionally much bigger edge over Kszczot in the 600. That, coupled with the fact that he can front run (whereas Kszczot is more of a kicker) make me think that Bosse has better quarter speed, probably in the realm of low 46.x / high 45.x (keep in mind that he's run 1:13.21 for 600!).
Hey 800 meter man....
How about you learn to look things up....
http://www.all-athletics.com/node/63421
46.51
Source: All-Athletics.
Ksczczcsczcsot
You make a compelling point about his 400 potential, based on his 600, 1.13, p.b. Based on this, Bosse might be capable of 46.00-46.50 for 400, similar to Coe's best for 400. Almost definite that Bosse has more leg speed compared with Kszczot. On the other hand, were Kszczot to train seriously for 1500, a time of 3.32 might result. Bosse, though, hates long stuff, so I do not think, at this stage, that he will move up to 1500.
mMmmmM wrote:
46.51
Source: All-Athletics.
Huh. Did not expect his IAAF page to be so poorly maintained; it's also missing his 1:43.30 PR from Rieti.
With that in mind, I'd revise the estimate for Bosse to even faster over the quarter--probably high to mid 45s.
As long as 800m final is raced 1:42.00 or slower.
800 meter man wrote:
mMmmmM wrote:46.51
Source: All-Athletics.
Huh. Did not expect his IAAF page to be so poorly maintained; it's also missing his 1:43.30 PR from Rieti.
With that in mind, I'd revise the estimate for Bosse to even faster over the quarter--probably high to mid 45s.
Here in the fantasy world of Letsrun, PRs do not exist. Your PR is determined by feelings- what kind of shape do you feel like you're in? How relaxed are you? Actually documenting a PR is inane.
Kszczot's 400 m PB is 46,51 from 2011. I saw that race. Rainy day, polish nationals semis. He did 46,81 day after that in the final, also bad weather. And Adam can't get out of the blocks really well, because he doesn't train it. He said, he can do 45 seconds. But of course his strenght comes from stamina, not from speed. He can do rounds pretty well. His coach used to coach Pawel Czapiewski, worlds bronze medallist in 2001. And Wojciech Kaldowski 1:45 runnner.
I'll never understand why more people don't try to even split or run less positive split 800s.
seems a no brainer that if you are a 1:44 guy...you don't go out in 50 seconds. If you do, you will die the last 150.
but that's not how 800 guys think, for the most part. Maybe bosse's win will change that.